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Donny Aries

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:28 am
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ICC Test bowling rankings | Top 10

1. Kagiso Rabada (SA) 882 rankings points

2. James Anderson (Eng) 874

3. Vernon Philander (SA) 826

4. Mohammad Abbas (Pak) 821

5. Ravindra Jadeja (Ind) 796

6. Ravi Ashwin (Ind) 778

7. Nathan Lyon (Aus) 766

8. Pat Cummins (Aus) 761

9. Josh Hazlewood (Aus) 758

10. Yasir Shah (Pak) 757

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Batsmen.

1. Virat Kohli (Ind) 934 rankings points

2. Kane Williamson (NZ) 915

3. Steve Smith (Aus) 892

4. Cheteshwar Pujara (Ind) 816

5. Joe Root (Eng) 807

6. David Warner (Aus) 787

7. Dimuth Karunaratne (SL) 752

8. Dean Elgar (SA) 724

= 9. Ashar Ali (Pak) 708

= 9. Henry Nicholls (NZ) 708

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:06 pm
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Batsmen.

1 V. Kohli IND 922
2 K.S. Williamson NZ 915
3 C.A. Pujara IND 881
4 S.P. Smith AUS 857*
5 J.E. Root ENG 763
6 D.A. Warner AUS 756*
7 H.M. Nicholls NZ 755
8 A.K. Markram SA 719
9 Q. de Kock SA 718
10 F. du Plessis SA 702

12 U.T. Khawaja AUS 682.

Every time Australia plays a Test, these two lose points.

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Bowlers.

1 P.J. Cummins AUS 878
2 J.M. Anderson ENG 862
3 K. Rabada SA 851
4 V.D. Philander SA 813
5 R.A. Jadeja IND 794
6 J.O. Holder WI 770
6 M. Abbas PAK 770
8 T.A. Boult NZ 769
9 T.G. Southee NZ 766
10 R. Ashwin IND 763

15 Starc
18 Lyon.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 1:57 pm
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Top 20 batsmen:

1 Virat Kohli IND 922
2 Steve Smith AUS 913
3 Kane Williamson NZ 887
4 Cheteshwar Pujara IND 881
5 Henry Nicholls NZ 770
6 Aiden Markram SA 719
7 Quinton de Kock SA 718
8 Dimuth Karunaratne SL 716
9 Joe Root ENG 710
10 Francois du Plessis SA 702
11 David Warner AUS 687
12 Ross Taylor NZ 678
13 Tom Latham NZ 675
14 Angelo Mathews SL 674
15 Rishabh Pant IND 673
16 Hashim Amla SA 664
17 Babar Azam PAK 658
18 Travis Head AUS 657
19 Kusal Mendis SL 652
20 Usman Khawaja AUS 646
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Top 20 bowlers:

1 Pat Cummins AUS 914
2 Kagiso Rabada SA 851
3 James Anderson ENG 823
4 Vernon Philander SA 813
5 Ravindra Jadeja IND 794
6 Neil Wagner NZ 793
7 Trent Boult NZ 785
8 Mohammad Abbas PAK 770
9 Jason Holder WI 770
10 Ravichandran Ashwin IND 763
11 Kemar Roach WI 744
12 Tim Southee NZ 725
13 Shannon Gabriel WI 725
14 Stuart Broad ENG 721
15 Josh Hazlewood AUS 715
16 Jasprit Bumrah IND 711
17 Yasir Shah PAK 710
18 Mitchell Starc AUS 705
19 Nathan Lyon AUS 702

20 Shakib Al Hasan BAN 662


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:57 pm
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Bumrah only 16. Shocked

What have his Test performances been like recently?

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I don't take ICC rankings seriously, of course.

Cummins of course is the key bowler for Oz (and the obvious emergency option for next captain if the current one shows irreversible age-related decline)...

But his rating is reported to be the fifth highest of all time. Do you believe he is in the fifth-best form of any Test bowler in history right now? If that were true, the Ashes would be safe.
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Bumrah is a relative newcomer to the big time.

10 Tests only. 49 wickets @ 21.89

Last Test was in Sydney, in January, this year. He took 1/62 & 0/2.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:53 pm
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Batting

1) Steve Smith (Aus) – 904 points

2) Virat Kohli (Ind) – 903

3) Kane Williamson (NZ) – 878

4) Cheteshwar Pujara (Ind) – 825

5) Henry Nicholls (NZ) – 749

6) Joe Root (Eng) – 726

7) Ajinkya Rahane (Ind) – 725

8. Tom Latham (NZ) – 724

9) Dimuth Karunaratne (SL) – 723

10) Aiden Markram (SA) - 719

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Bowling

1) Pat Cummins (Aus) – 908 points

2) Kagiso Rabada (SA) – 851

3) Jasprit Bumrah (Ind) – 835

4) Jason Holder (WI), James Anderson (Eng) – 814

6) Vernon Philander (SA) – 813

7) Trent Boult (NZ) – 795

8. Neil Wagner (NZ) – 785

9) Kemar Roach (WI) – 780

10) Mohammas Abbas (Pak) - 770

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:05 pm
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Smith's last 3 Test scores: 144, 142 & 92. Last duck was 40 innings ago. Average 63.2

Kohli: 51, 76 & 0. 53.1

Williamson: 0, 4 & 20. Ave. 51.6

Root: 0, 0 & 77. Ave. 48.2

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:40 am
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Joe is struggling, but if we look at the last 3, 4, 5 years we'll see that all of the first three you name are averaging 60 or 70+ in that period. The pitches are just getting flatter and flatter, as batsmen worldwide are getting poorer and poorer. In Virat's favour is his form in the shorter forms of the game. (Even if we are traditionalists and think those forms are worthless, we could imagine a Test situation when T20 skills are important.) In Kane's favour is that he bats at 3 (unlike e.g. S. Waugh hiding at 5).


Baum notes: "But the thinning begins quickly. No batsman beyond those three averages 50. Also in the top 10 are Williamson's New Zealand compatriots Henry Nicholls and Tom Latham, also South Africa's Aiden Markram. Credit to all for the careers they are forging, but if this were a trivia quiz question it is improbable that all three would leap to mind."

It would be more unbiased if Baum simply noted that Latham is the wicketkeeper. I wonder what Gilchrist's highest ranking was. And I can't remember him ever opening in Test cricket. To have a keeper open in Test cricket and rank that high suggests all sorts of things about the state of batting and pitches.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:21 pm
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On 30 December 2017, Smith reached a Test batting rating of 947, the second-highest of all time, only behind Don Bradman's 961.
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Smith's last 11 Ashes innings: 141*, 40, 6, 239, 76, 102, 83, 144, 142, 92, 101*

1166 runs @ 129.56 - quite incredible.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 12:56 am
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Donny wrote:
On 30 December 2017, Smith reached a Test batting rating of 947, the second-highest of all time, only behind Don Bradman's 961.

Smith has batted well, but this really just makes us (or should make us) question the ratings. It's very hard to do ratings well, probably impossible on a historical basis.

Cummins, cricinfo I think told us, has the fifth-highest of all time. He's bowling well, but if that were really true, Oz would be 3-0 up in the Ashes now, not struggling to save the series.
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Jasprit Bumrah: The complete bowler, whatever the format

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/27551075/complete-bowler-format

"Virat Kohli has called Jasprit Bumrah the most complete bowler in world cricket, and it's difficult to argue with that, given the sort of numbers that Bumrah has racked up over the last three-and-a-half years.
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The numbers so far are staggering: in ODIs, he has picked up 103 wickets from 58 games at an average of 21.88 and an economy rate of 4.49; in T20Is, 42 games have fetched him 51 wickets at an economy rate of 6.71 (apart from 82 wickets in 77 IPL games). But it's in Test matches that he has sparkled the brightest, taking 62 wickets from 12 matches at an average of 19.24.

With a 20-wicket cut-off in each format, Bumrah is the only bowler to average less than 22 in Tests, ODIs and T20Is in the last ten years. He is also one of only three bowlers to take 50-plus wickets in his first 12 Tests, and 100-plus in his first 58 ODIs; Shane Bond and Brett Lee are the others.

Before going further, though, a caveat. These are still very early days in Bumrah's international career. Great bowlers achieve their greatness by maintaining their standards over several years; Bumrah has been around less than two years as a Test-match bowler. However, in that period, he has played Tests in different conditions, with different balls, and has shown himself to be good enough to adapt and learn quickly, the last evident in his debut Test itself, when he followed a nervy and wayward first-innings show - 1 for 73 - with a much-improved second innings - 3 for 39. His outstanding skill set is complemented by a remarkably even and cool temperament. The superlatives have more than a little justification: in the last 60 years, only three other bowlers have taken 62 or more wickets in their first 12 Tests at a sub-20 average."
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He’s a bit of a spud. Let’s see how his stats look after he bowls to BradSmith in Australia for a series.
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