Mayday, May Day or D-Day for May: Brexit Update

[Wokko]

What's the problem? The UK has done a post EU trade deal with the US that will increase GDP. It's a better deal than they had under the giant EU. Looks like predictions of economic collapse were premature to say the least, and that's just one trade deal.

[roar]

The only real issue is the Irish one, otherwise it's just a storm in a tea cup.

[pietillidie]

^I think you mean because you haven't seen it covered day in and day out you imagine it to be a raging success. Just another creative art class dreaming about things going on in remote places.

[roar]

I don't necessarily think it's a raging success, nor do I think it's a disaster. It will probably be good in some ways, bad in others but in the end, I doubt it will change much. Besides, it's what most of you wanted.

[pietillidie]

^In other words, income and wealth smashed for the foreseeable future but no bodies piled high. 'V' for victory of ever there was one!

No, it's not what people wanted, and the very notion was absurd in any case. No one knew what they wanted, which is why there were so many versions of Brexit, and why the fantasy of being unaligned with the regional economy has not and will not ever take place.

It was a wealth-destroying vanity exercise whose only claim to success is that, although it actually hasn't taken place in any meaningful way at all and never will, there was no apocalypse. Think about that bit of genius for a moment.

Take heart, people. You're still smashing yourself in the head with a hammer and yet you're still alive! We told you it would be brilliant!

[Wokko]

There are more important things to a nation than wealth. The UK is suffering from a cultural malaise and the people wanted to take back their national identity and not just be a vassal state of the new European Reich that they're trying to build. Just because YOU can't understand that doesn't make it an illegitimate exercise.

[pietillidie]

^I do fear you're saying that with a straight face. That is dissociative internet drivel about a country and a region you clearly know very little about.

The European Reich is upon us! Resist! The internet has foreseen it!

[Wokko]

So like I said, you don't understand why people wanted to leave so you sneer at them and think them simple or stupid.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-englishness/english-malaise-stirs-yearning-for-divorce-from-european-union-idUSKCN0XW0CL

That guy is pretty representative of the reason to leave, love of England, not some globalized, homogeneous world.

[pietillidie]

[Wokko]

Your aggressive arrogance is astounding and as usual you're not worth conversing with. You never engage, you lecture and think yourself some kind of intellectual. Of course there are myriad reasons that people voted to leave, but you think that you know better and they're all racists or morons. I'm done with you anyway, if I wanted to be lectured at by arrogant globalist wankers I'd watch the BBC.

[pietillidie]

^I forgot about the 'globalists'! Are they allies with the Muslims? Are they in league with the Chinese? Or will they form an alliance with the European Reich and the Moochers? I can't wait to see what happens next!

There's nothing serious here to engage. You skip from evil enemy to evil enemy. The 'European Reich'! FFS, get a grip. How do you expect people to respond to that shite? You're the one lecturing about China and the UK and Europe and places you know squat about.

For what it's worth, I do think you know plenty about plenty of topics. But you can't defend the massive loss of wealth caused by a Brexit that hasn't even happened yet on the basis of conspiracy theories and cultural anecdotes.

[roar]

I actually doubt there will be a massive loss in wealth but in any case the people did want Brexit as votes showed, and if there was another vote, I reckon it would be another resounding "yes" so even if they aren't sure of the details, they are sure they want out.

It may be a case of shaudenfraude (sp?) but I'm looking forward to the hand wringing and despair coming out of the UK if things do go the way you believe they will. Perfect scenario would be Scotland leaving the union.

[pietillidie]

^Just to clarify, the massive loss of wealth has already occurred and is occurring each and every day the stench of a Brexit that hasn't actually happened weighs on the economy. I'm not expecting collapse, but rather an ongoing malaise, instability, pantomime, and flare ups of anger and reaction accompanied by bouts of costly populism.

Meanwhile, the capacity to cope with a changing planet will slip further from grasp for those who have retreated into Facebook fantasy. The rest will of course adapt to whatever comes and do best out of it. That's the real schadenfreude here.

I agree the angry mob could be incited to vote for Brexit again. Stupidity is angers best friend, and the well here has been thoroughly poisoned.

Generational shift is the bright spot on the horizon, but it's a slow process.

Anyhow, on that note all rants suspended until further notice. I've said more than enough on Trump, Brexit and god knows what.

[stui magpie]

I'm having flashbacks in this thread

[pietillidie]

Haha, a trip down memory lane!