The 'me too' movement

Wokko · Come and take it. Joined: 04 Oct 2005

https://stream.org/christine-blasey-fords-lies-and-the-father-of-lies/

Pretty much everything she said was a lie. Kavanaugh and the Republicans were too scared to go after her, and the media outright failed in what is meant to be its job of exposing the truth, both of which are a sad indictment on our society.

think positive · Side By Side Joined: 30 Jun 2005 Location: somewhere

stui magpie · Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:56 pm

^

Not sure if Blue is his colour though.

https://nypost.com/2019/08/14/epstein-had-bizarre-painting-of-bill-clinton-in-dress-heels-in-townhouse/

K · Joined: 09 Sep 2011

stui magpie · Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:51 pm

Pies4shaw · pies4shaw Joined: 08 Oct 2007

Her Honour Judge Hinchey resigned from the position of Coroner only. She is still a County Court judge, I believe.

David · I dare you to try Joined: 27 Jul 2003 Location: Andromeda

I absolutely believe in sanctions for workplace misconduct, K, up to and including dismissal. I’m less sure that I agree with the idea of dredging up legal officials’ past in order to render them ineligible for a job, unless it might reasonably be considered to compromise their ability to perform their role. I’m not sure that was the case here.

I haven’t written much about this, but I actually found the Kavanaugh stuff rather troubling – it seemed like the allegations were being quite tactically deployed, and wonder how people might have reacted if it had been a left-wing judge seeking confirmation. The extreme politicisation of supreme court nominations in the US is pretty alarming all round.

K · Joined: 09 Sep 2011

K · Joined: 09 Sep 2011

McDonald's fires CEO over relationship with employee

"...consensual relationship with an employee against company policy..."

(Could go in several VPT threads.)

David · I dare you to try Joined: 27 Jul 2003 Location: Andromeda

^ But probably not this one, right? Consensual relationships with subordinates may breach company policy, but I don't think they belong in the same ballpark with discussions about sexual harassment (and I found it strange that, when a similar thing happened in the AFL a couple of years back, McLachlan didn't quite seem to understand that difference).

stui magpie · Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:52 pm

It could easily go in the personal behaviour v employment one, but it does sort of fit here when you think about a company like McDonalds and why they'd put a policy like this in place.

Companies don't normally make a policy like this because someone woke up cranky one day. Maccas employs a lot of young people and have hierarchy's within stores with young people reporting to young and older people. I'd be highly surprised if they hadn't had a number of issues over the years with staff relationships which led to the ban

David · I dare you to try Joined: 27 Jul 2003 Location: Andromeda

Not that I’d usually advocate for double standards, but I feel like there’s a world of difference between mostly teenage minimum-wage shop workers and corporate head office (which is probably indistinguishable from any other corporate head office).

It’s not that I don’t understand the policy – obviously, relationships between subordinates and superiors carry risks of favouritism, conflict of interest and power imbalance (along with all the other potential bad outcomes if things go pear-shaped). That’s why, I think, the best company policies in this area are those that suggest disclosure and, in cases where one member of the couple is directly reporting to another, a move to another department or branch. I think firing is kind of draconian, unless some of the problems mentioned above have actually transpired.

stui magpie · Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 7:23 pm

You want to try to avoid double standards, so if it's good enough to be applied at the shop it's good enough for the corporate area.

Keep in mind, as a CEO he wasn't actually "sacked", he'll receive a payout.

ronrat · Joined: 22 May 2006 Location: Thailand

20 years ago a lieutenant got engaged to a 2 star General. They told her and him one of them should resign. His next posting was to NATO based in Rome for 3 years basically on the cocktail circuit so he wasn't getting out.

She tried making waves but the CDF and Minister had a coffee with them and explained that as a diplomatic posting it would e custom for her to be addressed by all military personnel below his rank as maam. In addition there was resentment , mainly from the senior female officers, that she was entitled
to a driver and business class travel . They returned to Canberra later and gave her a few honorary positions like army wives association president.

Each organisation has rules for reason and Stui has nailed it.I doubt maccas are going to start sacking kids for pashing in the carpark.

K · Joined: 09 Sep 2011

The Daily Telegraph abandons claims that Geoffrey Rush trial judge appeared to be biased

https://www.theage.com.au/national/geoffrey-rush-trial-judge-appeared-to-be-biased-newspaper-claims-in-appeal-20191104-p53795.html

"On Monday morning, the newspaper's barrister Tom Blackburn, SC, told the full court of the Federal Court that a combination of matters gave rise to an apprehension of bias.

However, several hours later, he asked for a 10-minute adjournment and returned at 3.45pm to say the apprehended bias part of the appeal was no longer pressed. He subsequently agreed it had been "abandoned"."