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watt price tully
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Well done P4S: I was looking for the thread on Geoffrey Rush. Wasn’t her too it seems. _________________ “I even went as far as becoming a Southern Baptist until I realised they didn’t keep ‘em under long enough” Kinky Friedman |
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Attorney-General seeks advice on stripping Dyson Heydon of QC title
https://www.theage.com.au/national/attorney-general-seeks-advice-on-stripping-dyson-heydon-of-qc-title-20200702-p558hz.html
"At the time of Mr Heydon's appointment, the state government was involved in the appointment of QCs by issuing letters patent and it would need to strip him of the title.
In 1992, the Fahey Liberal government announced the state government would cease to play a role in the silk appointment process and said the government "should not be asked to mark out particular lawyers for special treatment".
The process of appointing silks, now known as Senior Counsel (SCs) rather than QCs, has been managed by the NSW Bar Association since 1993.
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The debate about dumping the SC post-nominals in favour of QC – or KC if the reigning monarch is a man – rears its head periodically in NSW and has previously led to bitter battles for control of the Bar Association."
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^ A process (in modern usage) by which the State issues an executive direction. The most common example in ordinary discourse is the letters patent appointing a royal commission. The point being made is that NSW Bar Association has no power to revoke the "QC" post-nominals because they were granted by The Crown. |
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watt price tully
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A nice Christmas present: hope he sues for the pain, hurt and damage _________________ “I even went as far as becoming a Southern Baptist until I realised they didn’t keep ‘em under long enough” Kinky Friedman |
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watt price tully
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David
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watt price tully wrote: | A nice Christmas present: hope he sues for the pain, hurt and damage |
Maybe not exactly a vindication, though:
Quote: | The magistrate said Mr McLachlan likely touched the women while they were performing, but might have believed they were consenting due to his "egotistical, self-entitled sense of humour". However she was not persuaded beyond a reasonable doubt he knew they weren't consenting, which is an element of the charge.
Ms Wallington found he "probably" did use his tongue to kiss his co-star onstage but couldn't be satisfied beyond a reasonable doubt. She also accepted the kisses and hug basckstage and the face push onstage all happened but wasn't convinced they constituted an indecent assault or common assault.
After delivering her verdicts, the magistrate praised the four women, criticised the way defence lawyers questioned the women and indicated her verdicts might have been different had she applied the current law regarding an accused's belief about a complainant's consent. Because the allegations were from 2014 she had to apply the way the law stood then.
"Were the current law applicable it is possible the result may have been different," she said.
Ms Wallington said the women's accounts were credible and there was no evidence of collusion between them and no motive behind their decisions to report the allegations to police.
"The four complainants were brave and honest witnesses," she said. |
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watt price tully
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Consent for what exactly though David? Using a tongue to kiss? Well f*ck me _________________ “I even went as far as becoming a Southern Baptist until I realised they didn’t keep ‘em under long enough” Kinky Friedman |
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stui magpie
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That requires consent too.
I hope he suescandvwins big on hi case against the media, his career is farked, time for some recompense _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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David
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watt price tully wrote: | Consent for what exactly though David? Using a tongue to kiss? Well f*ck me |
Don’t ask me, I wasn’t there! But yes, as Stui says, you can’t just slip a tongue in unexpectedly on a fellow actor on the job if it’s not clear that they’ve signed up for that. It’s obviously not in the realm of rape or anything but could certainly constitute sexual harassment. I also thought the judge’s comments about the credibility of the plaintiffs and about McLachlan’s general disposition seemed pretty damning. _________________ All watched over by machines of loving grace |
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These days it certainly could. It’s a difficult one, I’m surprised they came forward,I’d probably have jabbed him with my knee at the time, times changed, laws changed, attitudes change. No winners here, and it certainly points to should the media have had his name and been allowed to drag it through the mud? _________________ You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either! |
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watt price tully
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David wrote: | watt price tully wrote: | Consent for what exactly though David? Using a tongue to kiss? Well f*ck me |
Don’t ask me, I wasn’t there! But yes, as Stui says, you can’t just slip a tongue in unexpectedly on a fellow actor on the job if it’s not clear that they’ve signed up for that. It’s obviously not in the realm of rape or anything but could certainly constitute sexual harassment. I also thought the judge’s comments about the credibility of the plaintiffs and about McLachlan’s general disposition seemed pretty damning. |
I think Stui was referring to my exclamation David. A slip of the tongue despite being uninvited is of course not in the same continuum as rape. Precious petals. Bugger me. What happened to a good old slap, **** off what do u think you’re doing and all the rest. To make it indecent assault is bizarre. I have a good mind to get that woman, put her over my knee and give her an overdue non sexual smack 🙄😉😜 _________________ “I even went as far as becoming a Southern Baptist until I realised they didn’t keep ‘em under long enough” Kinky Friedman |
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David
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Not sure why you’re taking his side here – isn’t it pretty clear he was in the wrong, verdict notwithstanding? How would you feel if, say, a male co-worker did the same to you? _________________ All watched over by machines of loving grace |
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watt price tully
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I would say **** off who do you think you are and embarrass them publicly if I was in semi sexual show like she was., _________________ “I even went as far as becoming a Southern Baptist until I realised they didn’t keep ‘em under long enough” Kinky Friedman |
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stui magpie
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He was found Not Guilty, but his career and means of income have been seriously damaged, perhaps irreperably.
This isn't the 80's, any improper behaviour should be called out at the time and there's ways of doing it. I'm with WPT on this one. _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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