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Pies4shaw Leo

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:15 pm
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His delay looks to have condemned a couple of hundred thousand people to death. Why would anyone find fault with that?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:35 pm
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^Yes, best to wait until people no longer feel they need to be supportive of an unhinged narcissist to save dying relatives.

Not only will people wake up to a massive death toll and mass job losses caused by denialism and incompetence, but also a pile of unproductive debt caused by idiotic billionaire tax cuts, vanity walls, a massive expansion in military spending, unprecedented trade destabilisation, and fed interference rooted in executive abuse.

Then again, it's easy to forget we're dealing with two different centuries in one country here. Perhaps the 1960s fantasists will vote for him again to stick it gay feminist vegans and pregnant teenage girls, as they did with George W. I. Who can be sure?

Way to go, Bankrupter-in-Chief.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:38 pm
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His delay looks to have condemned a couple of hundred thousand people to death. Why would anyone find fault with that?

Agree. Xi Jinping did nothing to stop the spread of the virus for weeks.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:59 am
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Pies4shaw wrote:
His delay looks to have condemned a couple of hundred thousand people to death. Why would anyone find fault with that?

Agree. Xi Jinping did nothing to stop the spread of the virus for weeks.


PTID isn’t saying China didn't lie, he is saying Trump reacted slowly too through denial & minimisation. Trump’s
tardiness let alone his policies will kill lots of Americans.

However by next week he’s assured us the problem especially the Economic one will be fixed.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 3:39 am
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^It's getting hard to keep the story straight, apparently.

Jezza, if the Chinese leadership denied and obfuscated, and Trump denied and obfuscated, that ought to set off warning bells in your head. Callous, reckless, self-serving, corrupt, bumbling and authoritarian; I'd say that describes them both quite well.

Even worse, though, Trump had the chance to learn from China's mistakes and the threat still failed to register above his own peurile self interest. Just a catastrophe.

Why you'd hitch your wagon to that is beyond me.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 6:25 am
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Whatever has happened in China is irrelevant to Trump’s culpability. By my estimation, the US just ticked over 1,000,000 cases of COVID-19.

You don’t get 6,803 deaths from 270,000 cases in a functional health system. The true figure is likely to be well over 1,030,000, as I write.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:25 am
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PR stunts and mismanagement instead of serious action as the clock ticked:

The NYT wrote:
At least 430,000 people have arrived in the United States on direct flights from China since that country disclosed the existence of a pneumonialike illness to international health experts on New Year’s Eve, according to an analysis of data collected in both countries.

Nearly 40,000 of them have come in the two months since President Trump imposed travel restrictions.

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And even with the restrictions, screening procedures have been uneven, interviews show.

“I was surprised at how lax the whole process was,” said Andrew Wu, 31, who landed at Los Angeles International Airport from Beijing on March 10. “The guy I spoke to read down a list of questions, and he didn’t seem interested in checking out anything.”

A dangerous and reckless conman in miles over his head, with the power to reduce the world to rubble.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/04/world/coronavirus-live-news-updates.html

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:01 am
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Of course, there's always time for corrupt victimisation while people are dying:

NY Times wrote:
President Trump is firing the intelligence community inspector general whose insistence on telling lawmakers about a whistle-blower complaint about his dealings with Ukraine triggered impeachment proceedings last fall, the president told lawmakers in a letter late Friday.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/03/us/trump-inspector-general-intelligence-fired.html

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:13 pm
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From the Guardian earlier today (and, before reading, please note that the Guardian is not posting similarly about Morrison - it is a terrible thing when such things can be written about any leader):

The daily briefing has ended. Some key fact checks and falsehoods from Trump:

He falsely suggested the pandemic was not predictable when, in fact, the US intelligence community, public health experts and officials in Trump’s own administration had warned for years that the country was at risk from a pandemic, including specific warnings about a coronavirus outbreak.

He falsely said the testing in the US is “better” than any other country in the world. In fact, some of the initial coronavirus tests sent out to states were seriously flawed – some did not even work. The CDC had insisted it would manufacture the tests itself, creating further problems.

He tried to suggest that Obama’s handling of H1N1 was worse than his handling of Covid-19, when in fact Obama declared an emergency within two weeks of a first confirmed US case.

He falsely said airline passengers were getting tests upon landing, which is not true.

He attacked the inspector general report about testing shortage as politically motivated from an Obama appointee, when in reality, the official behind the report has had a long career with the non-partisan office.

He also said the country would open “sooner than people think”, even as health officials are warning of a gradual return from current restrictions.


I don't think the standard of probity expected of a world leader should be lower than the standard allowed for posts on a message board.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:18 pm
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Pies4shaw wrote:
Whatever has happened in China is irrelevant to Trump’s culpability. By my estimation, the US just ticked over 1,000,000 cases of COVID-19.

You don’t get 6,803 deaths from 270,000 cases in a functional health system. The true figure is likely to be well over 1,030,000, as I write.


i doubt any american would tell you they have a functioning health care system

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:21 pm
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OK, then - they have now over 1.3M cases (updated with today's data) and no functioning health care system. That's going to end well.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:24 pm
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^ That's worldwide, P4S – the US is, though, accounting for a sizeable proportion of it (367,000 at the last count I've found, which is nearly three times Spain's, the second place holder). They've also just passed 10,000 deaths.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:55 pm
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think positive wrote:
Pies4shaw wrote:
Whatever has happened in China is irrelevant to Trump’s culpability. By my estimation, the US just ticked over 1,000,000 cases of COVID-19.

You don’t get 6,803 deaths from 270,000 cases in a functional health system. The true figure is likely to be well over 1,030,000, as I write.


i doubt any american would tell you they have a functioning health care system


We clearly move in different circles when in the States. I have spoken to people adamant that their health system is fine

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:10 pm
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David wrote:
^ That's worldwide, P4S – the US is, though, accounting for a sizeable proportion of it (367,000 at the last count I've found, which is nearly three times Spain's, the second place holder). They've also just passed 10,000 deaths.

David, you obviously didn't get my memo. Laughing

I'm not relying on the reported figures. I'm relying on the reported deaths and estimating how many cases there must be, approximately, to generate that many deaths based on the infection mortality rate. On that basis, 10,943/0.0066 = about (now, updated) 1.7 M cases in the US. Worldwide its over 11 M (the calculation is 11,336,363 but plainly this is an approximation).

I note that Australia is plugging a slightly higher infection mortality rate into its modelling - but I expect that the 0.7% is just a rounding of the 0.66% that has been reported by epidemiologists in recent days.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:23 pm
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stui magpie wrote:
think positive wrote:
Pies4shaw wrote:
Whatever has happened in China is irrelevant to Trump’s culpability. By my estimation, the US just ticked over 1,000,000 cases of COVID-19.

You don’t get 6,803 deaths from 270,000 cases in a functional health system. The true figure is likely to be well over 1,030,000, as I write.


i doubt any american would tell you they have a functioning health care system


We clearly move in different circles when in the States. I have spoken to people adamant that their health system is fine


Yep, it's the best in the world by a country mile. People saying otherwise are just shilling for socialised medicine.
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