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| David wrote: | | Woods wrote: | | John Wren wrote: | | Woods wrote: | Four pages and no one has twigged to why Gill has said he'd look into having the AFL play footy on Good Friday. He's looking after the big end of town of which he considers himself a loyal participant.
Playing AFL footy on Good Friday removes the only political obstacle to removing Good Friday from the gazetted list of public holidays in Victoria.
The big employer groups in Vic would argue that if the masses are prepared to ignore the solemnity of Christianity's most sacred day (the very reason the day is a public holiday in the first place) there is no longer any reason for it to remain a public holiday.
So all you wage earners out there who enjoy a day off with pay (or work but get penalty rates), just go ahead and help Gill out in his devious agenda of playing AFL footy on Good Friday. Shooting yourself in the foot (or dare I say crucified).
(and its the tin end of the wedge for other religious holidays like Christmas, and by association Boxing Day) |
i don't entirely buy that as plausible as it sounds. nsw hasn't removed its good friday public holiday. besides, this friday victory plays wsw in melbourne and all days through easter are gazetted public holidays. |
NSW doesn’t have the mass adherance to its footy code(s) that Victoria has. Victoria is the jewel in the crown.
Eg. bugger all people attend NRL games. Matters not if they watch on TV. It’s the public attendance of 80,000+ at the MCG as the non-religious hords flout the sacredness of the day, that creates the foundation argument to give up the Good Friday public holiday.
NSW won’t abolish their Good Friday public holiday until Victoria does, then the other states will follow and topple theirs like skittles.
If Good Friday goes, then by default so do all the other gazetted Easter holidays. |
Good. I'm all for public holidays as a workers' rights issue, but we're no longer a Christian country and making one religion's holy days a public holiday is inappropriate in this day and age. Time to shift the dates anyway.
But realistically, what the AFL does or doesn't do on Good Friday is going to make no difference to anything. The only question is why they keep this silly tradition when there's pretty much zero reason to do so.
Someone mentioned players' rights – how many AFL players are devout Catholics who would see playing football on that day as a sin? Seriously, lol. Under that logic you'd better make sure no games are scheduled on Yom Kippur or during Ramadan.
Can't believe we're still having this conversation, honestly. |
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The worlds biggest muslim nation, Indonesia, observes Easter and Christmas day as public holidays.
And when Kennett tried to take public holidays off Victorians the Federal government stepped in awarded those days to Federal employees. The CFMEU etc had them put in awards. So basically state run enterprises were running services for no one. Small businesses like cafes etc around precincts like Spring Street shut down as well so in effect it was counter productive. Not going to happen.
Queens birthday is a more likely target but given there is a big break to next one probably not. Labour is a target but is a money spinner for tourism.
The Government that takes away easter loses the next election. They would lose every seat on the Mornington Peninsula, Gippsland lakes,Eildon weir and snowfields and the great ocean road.
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| ronrat wrote: | The worlds biggest muslim nation, Indonesia, observes Easter and Christmas day as public holidays.
And when Kennett tried to take public holidays off Victorians the Federal government stepped in awarded those days to Federal employees. The CFMEU etc had them put in awards. So basically state run enterprises were running services for no one. Small businesses like cafes etc around precincts like Spring Street shut down as well so in effect it was counter productive. Not going to happen.
Queens birthday is a more likely target but given there is a big break to next one probably not. Labour is a target but is a money spinner for tourism.
The Government that takes away easter loses the next election. They would lose every seat on the Mornington Peninsula, Gippsland lakes,Eildon weir and snowfields and the great ocean road. |
Correct!
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| thompsoc wrote: | | ronrat wrote: | The worlds biggest muslim nation, Indonesia, observes Easter and Christmas day as public holidays.
And when Kennett tried to take public holidays off Victorians the Federal government stepped in awarded those days to Federal employees. The CFMEU etc had them put in awards. So basically state run enterprises were running services for no one. Small businesses like cafes etc around precincts like Spring Street shut down as well so in effect it was counter productive. Not going to happen.
Queens birthday is a more likely target but given there is a big break to next one probably not. Labour is a target but is a money spinner for tourism.
The Government that takes away easter loses the next election. They would lose every seat on the Mornington Peninsula, Gippsland lakes,Eildon weir and snowfields and the great ocean road. |
Correct! |
No. While local business owners (who profit from the influx of out-of-towners on Easter long weekend) would object to the govt. of the day that took away the public holidays, the great number of voters in those electorates are retirees, tree-changers, sea-changers etc. They would rejoice in seeing the end of the hords of Melbournians who descend on their tranquil retreats at Easter, bringing with them road congestion, drugs and increased violence, and leave behind their rubbish which they, as rate-payers, have to fund the clean-up of via their local councils.
So, the govt. that takes away easter would win every seat on the Mornington Peninsula, Gippsland lakes, Eildon weir and snowfields and the great ocean road. |
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For those that are religious it's more important than Christmas Day. |
So, about 5 people? |
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Perhaps the whole issue around the so called "holly" day should be better focused on dirty bag Peddo priests then worrying about a game of footy on Good Friday?
Seems like that would be a more pressing issue?
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| Joel wrote: | | themonk wrote: |
For those that are religious it's more important than Christmas Day. |
So, about 5 people? |
No that is wrong.
You forgot to add the 93 year old Catholic nun
who lives down the lane with Baa Baa black sheep!
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| thompsoc wrote: | | Joel wrote: | | themonk wrote: |
For those that are religious it's more important than Christmas Day. |
So, about 5 people? |
No that is wrong.
You forgot to add the 93 year old Catholic nun
who lives down the lane with Baa Baa black sheep! |
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So has anyone died of boredom yet???
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John Wren 
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^ earlier this morning i was thinking that good friday just feels like a boring day. moreso than any other day when nothing much happens.
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| think positive wrote: | | David wrote: | Good. I'm all for public holidays as a workers' rights issue, but we're no longer a Christian country and making one religion's holy days a public holiday is inappropriate in this day and age. Time to shift the dates anyway.
But realistically, what the AFL does or doesn't do on Good Friday is going to make no difference to anything. The only question is why they keep this silly tradition when there's pretty much zero reason to do so.
Someone mentioned players' rights – how many AFL players are devout Catholics who would see playing football on that day as a sin? Seriously, lol. Under that logic you'd better make sure no games are scheduled on Yom Kippur or during Ramadan.
Can't believe we're still having this conversation, honestly. |
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_Australia
Can't believe your parents haven't burnt you at the stake |
Actually, my parents are in a minority of Christians who think that Easter is pagan and refuse to observe it. They wouldn't even let us eat Easter eggs! So I think Good Friday is more offensive to them than it is to me. 
As for the statistics on Christianity in this country, the word "nominal" comes in handy. Church attendance is a much better indicator of the prevalence of actual practising Christians, and that percentage is under 10% and dropping all the time. Respecting religious traditions regarding Good Friday is a decidedly minority concern.
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John Wren
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| David wrote: | | think positive wrote: | | David wrote: | Good. I'm all for public holidays as a workers' rights issue, but we're no longer a Christian country and making one religion's holy days a public holiday is inappropriate in this day and age. Time to shift the dates anyway.
But realistically, what the AFL does or doesn't do on Good Friday is going to make no difference to anything. The only question is why they keep this silly tradition when there's pretty much zero reason to do so.
Someone mentioned players' rights – how many AFL players are devout Catholics who would see playing football on that day as a sin? Seriously, lol. Under that logic you'd better make sure no games are scheduled on Yom Kippur or during Ramadan.
Can't believe we're still having this conversation, honestly. |
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_Australia
Can't believe your parents haven't burnt you at the stake |
Actually, my parents are in a minority of Christians who think that Easter is pagan and refuse to observe it. They wouldn't even let us eat Easter eggs! So I think Good Friday is more offensive to them than it is to me.
As for the statistics on Christianity in this country, the word "nominal" comes in handy. Church attendance is a much better indicator of the prevalence of actual practising Christians, and that percentage is under 10% and dropping all the time. Respecting religious traditions regarding Good Friday is a decidedly minority concern. |
does ingmar get easter eggs?
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Are you kidding? He's 16 months old! The day he gets to have chocolate will be Armageddon. There'll be no turning back. 
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John Wren
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let me drop by and deliver him some. 
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David
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If you can wrap up some brussels sprouts in crepe paper, you're on.
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