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| Pies4shaw wrote: | ^ Looks like we don't have to wait - the Queensland police are already backtracking over Detective Inspector Mark Thompson saying police needed to keep an open mind as to whether the deaths of Hannah Clarke and her children were a case of a woman and children suffering significant domestic violence or a “husband being driven too far by issues”: https://7news.com.au/news/qld/police-apology-over-dead-mum-comment-c-708988
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Hardly surprising when a Qld newspaper announced ‘NRL star, wife and children killed in a car fire. “.
Anyone who heard Her family on a current affair tonight must surely not see it that way.
And yes David I’m glad he’s in Hell for eternity. But it’s not enough suffering for him.
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stui magpie 
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So fkn humerous. The title has all the funny in it, you don't actually need to read the "article".
Did you fall off your bike and hit your head? If your main news sources are the Guardian and the beetroota advocate, you're a candidate for involuntary admission to a palliative care ward
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David
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WPT, I'm getting perilously close to banning Betoota Advocate links in this forum.  
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David
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| think positive wrote: | | Hardly surprising when a Qld newspaper announced ‘NRL star, wife and children killed in a car fire. “. |
To be fair, it may not have been immediately apparent that it was a homicide – in which case that would be a reasonable headline. I am sure they have long since amended it to something suitably tabloid-like, e.g. "Evil Sicko Kills Family".
(By the way, what is it with this current notion that humanising perpetrators in any form is bad? I saw somebody on Facebook the other day pointing to a couple of tabloid headlines about this case – "pure evil", etc. – as an example of some kind of "progressive" shift in reportage, as if tabloids haven't been doing this exact same thing for decades.)
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| stui magpie wrote: |
So fkn humerous. The title has all the funny in it, you don't actually need to read the "article".
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Sharp as a bowling ball this lad. Of course it's the friggin' headlines  Goodness me.
Some of the headlines are very funny incliding this one, however what's more amusing is the overvalued seriousness some people seem to place on them.
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| David wrote: | | think positive wrote: | | Hardly surprising when a Qld newspaper announced ‘NRL star, wife and children killed in a car fire. “. |
To be fair, it may not have been immediately apparent that it was a homicide – in which case that would be a reasonable headline. I am sure they have long since amended it to something suitably tabloid-like, e.g. "Evil Sicko Kills Family".
(By the way, what is it with this current notion that humanising perpetrators in any form is bad? I saw somebody on Facebook the other day pointing to a couple of tabloid headlines about this case – "pure evil", etc. – as an example of some kind of "progressive" shift in reportage, as if tabloids haven't been doing this exact same thing for decades.) |
He didn’t just snap David, it was an escalation the cops knew about and went over the mums head to do a DVO . And by all accounts it was known strategy as soon as his name, there were witnesses and the poor lady was still lucid.
Was he evil? No that lets him if the hook to criminal insanity, he was just a narcissistic spoilt self centred nasty vindictive piece of human flesh and it’s all on him. No excuses
Those children did not die instantly, and he stood there and watched and listened, think of that, just how?
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David
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The question isn’t about whether the police knew, it’s about whether the media knew. For better or for worse, news outlets tend to rush to report as soon as they have any information, and (if they’re being responsible) early headlines will tend to err on the side of caution. I think very little of some of these outlets in general, but even I find it utterly implausible that they would have gone with the "NRL star dies" headline if it had already been conclusively established that he’d murdered his family.
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| David wrote: | | The question isn’t about whether the police knew, it’s about whether the media knew. For better or for worse, news outlets tend to rush to report as soon as they have any information, and (if they’re being responsible) early headlines will tend to err on the side of caution. I think very little of some of these outlets in general, but even I find it utterly implausible that they would have gone with the "NRL star dies" headline if it had already been conclusively established that he’d murdered his family. |
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I think it's fairly well established, there'll be no trial obviously, so is it still necessary to use "alleged"?
I do remember seeing a story about a dismembered body found in someone's boot.. story said "the alleged victim"... no, I think it's pretty clear that they are the victim! |
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stui magpie
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| David wrote: | | The question isn’t about whether the police knew, it’s about whether the media knew. For better or for worse, news outlets tend to rush to report as soon as they have any information, and (if they’re being responsible) early headlines will tend to err on the side of caution. I think very little of some of these outlets in general, but even I find it utterly implausible that they would have gone with the "NRL star dies" headline if it had already been conclusively established that he’d murdered his family. |
Yeah, I saw an article basically about the evolution of a news story, how it goes through the stages as more info comes to light.
You're correct in your assumption
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| luvdids wrote: | I think it's fairly well established, there'll be no trial obviously, so is it still necessary to use "alleged"?
I do remember seeing a story about a dismembered body found in someone's boot.. story said "the alleged victim"... no, I think it's pretty clear that they are the victim! |
Quite! It was definitely a fact, I thought it was funny to put after David’s post. 😉
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Last Thursday afternoon, very disturbing event was a murder/suicide 2 doors down from my daughter and her partners house. Outer S.E. suburb, no media whatsoever, up to 20 police, detectives on site.
From what has leaked is that the rrsehole partner has killed his partner, then attempted to hang her to look like suicide before knocking himself off.
This sort of stuff would normally receive media attention and makes me wonder how many other murder/suicides are kept quiet. I do understand stand alone suicides are not publicised for obvious reasons.
Don't want to sound flippant, this has distressed my daughter and we are all rather shocked. |
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David
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^ That's awful to hear, Bruce. Yes, one does wonder how much the taboo on suicide reporting can contribute to covering up such cases.
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Fair point.
Generally a murder gets reported. Given how the news media works as covered previously, initial reports may have been about a double suicide which would have scared the media off. By the time it becomes clearer, the dogs are barking but the caravan has moved on
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