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think positive 
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| David wrote: | Well, let's just say far-left progressives hate Kanye for his wealth in the same way doctors hate that woman in the clickbait ads for discovering a $5 wrinkle cure at home.  |
people hate Kanye cos hes a $�$%^%%$ idiot! and married to the biggest fake news story ever! and it seems even she now thinks hes a $�$%^%%$ idiot!
but hey he made Taylor Swift even more famous!!
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| think positive wrote: | | David wrote: | | Well, let's just say far-left progressives hate Kanye for his wealth in the same way doctors hate that woman in the clickbait ads for discovering a $5 wrinkle cure at home. |
people hate Kanye cos hes a $�$%^%%$ idiot! and married to the biggest fake news story ever! and it seems even she now thinks hes a $�$%^%%$ idiot!
but hey he made Taylor Swift even more famous!! |
https://www.facebook.com/100000004553254/posts/3447977705212347/?sfnsn=mo&d=n&vh=i
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David
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| Sicks Bux wrote: | | The Democratic Convention starts on the 17th, so Biden's running mate should be announced any day. On one hand I hope it's not Kamala Harris because I can't stand her. On the other hand I hope it is Harris and she gets poleaxed during the pointy end of the campaign. I hear Susan Rice is another strong chance but I don't know much about her. |
Harris is a bad choice for a number of reasons, but the trouble is there aren't really any good ones. Warren would have to totally sell out to even be considered. A few – Tammy Baldwin, Tammy Duckworth – seem okay, but are long shots. Most of the others are faithful Democrats with pretty dodgy track records. Rice hasn't held any political office but was a key member of the Obama cabinet, enough said.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/10/opinion/susan-rice-africa.html
Anyway, whoever he picks will probably be the President of the United States in about two years, so that's fun.
| think positive wrote: | | David wrote: | | But your premise suggests that the wealth of Kanye West (and Michael Jordan, and Oprah Winfrey) is something they’ve never heard of and that it would break their brains if they found out, which is totally implausible because everybody who doesn’t live under a rock knows that these people are rich and understands that it’s possible in America for them to be. I can accept that some leftists might have bad or ultra-simplistic explanations for why Oprah is a multimillionaire, but the idea that it torpedoes their world view implies a position that I don’t think anybody actually holds. |
WTAF!! what the **** are you smokin! |
Did I say something particularly controversial/astonishing here? What exactly are you taking issue with?
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stui magpie 
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| think positive wrote: | | David wrote: | | But your premise suggests that the wealth of Kanye West (and Michael Jordan, and Oprah Winfrey) is something they’ve never heard of and that it would break their brains if they found out, which is totally implausible because everybody who doesn’t live under a rock knows that these people are rich and understands that it’s possible in America for them to be. I can accept that some leftists might have bad or ultra-simplistic explanations for why Oprah is a multimillionaire, but the idea that it torpedoes their world view implies a position that I don’t think anybody actually holds. |
WTAF!! what the **** are you smokin! |
Did I say something particularly controversial/astonishing here? What exactly are you taking issue with? |
Well my opinion was you completely mis read what I said and this post above was utter bullshit, well see what part annoyed TP.
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David
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Well, this is the original post I was responding to:
| stui magpie wrote: | | Far left progressives must hate him, they's so fond of pointing out how all the wealth is inherited through white families, yet a black rapper with a flair for marketing can (apparently) become a billionaire. |
Not sure if you feel there was anything there that I didn’t address? I just thought it was a bit of a silly observation, to be honest; "all the wealth is inherited through white families" is something I’ve never heard anyone say.
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| And Kamala Harris it is. |
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stui magpie
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| David wrote: | Well, this is the original post I was responding to:
| stui magpie wrote: | | Far left progressives must hate him, they's so fond of pointing out how all the wealth is inherited through white families, yet a black rapper with a flair for marketing can (apparently) become a billionaire. |
Not sure if you feel there was anything there that I didn’t address? I just thought it was a bit of a silly observation, to be honest; "all the wealth is inherited through white families" is something I’ve never heard anyone say. |
You don't read your own Facebook page?
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I’m not going to ask for evidence because Facebook search is a nightmare, but I’d be surprised if you could point to an example of me or anyone in the comments saying that. Hardly anyone but me cares about inheritance and I would never be so reductionist about race, so ...
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stui magpie
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| David wrote: | | Sicks Bux wrote: | | The Democratic Convention starts on the 17th, so Biden's running mate should be announced any day. On one hand I hope it's not Kamala Harris because I can't stand her. On the other hand I hope it is Harris and she gets poleaxed during the pointy end of the campaign. I hear Susan Rice is another strong chance but I don't know much about her. |
Harris is a bad choice for a number of reasons, but the trouble is there aren't really any good ones. |
Harris ticks every box
Female
Black
Not eligible for an old age pension
Left wing
Warren is already over 70. Give her a blanket for her knees and far kerr off to the nursing home with Sanders to keep a place warm for Bidet.
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Harris is not left-wing. She's a corporate shill. Those who supported Sanders can't stand her. What I hate about her nomination is that her supporters are going to go out of their way to bang on about her race and gender to deflect attention away from her shitty record and neoliberal economic positions.
This is one of my favourite moments from the Democratic debates: https://youtu.be/Y4fjA0K2EeE
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stui magpie
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What is actually left wing is becoming like a Crocodile Dundee skit.
That's not Left Wing / Progressive/ blah blah, This is........
Personally I don't care. Some people think she's further left than Sanders, others clearly think differently.
Interestingly since the announcement Biden has moved to clear favourite with the bookies.
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Sicks Bux
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It's about the policies. Sanders supported Medicare for all, free college and a wealth tax. Harris doesn't. Harris accepted money from corporate donors. Sanders didn't.
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David
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Sicks Bux is right. I acknowledge that debates over who is and isn’t left-wing sometimes read as no-true-scotsman arguments, but I think it’s safe to say Harris isn’t. She’s squarely in the centrist Democrat camp along with Biden. There are relatively progressive/"liberal" Democrats who are still much less left-wing than Sanders, but Harris isn’t one of them (despite some attempts to rebrand herself as such in the lead-up to the primaries). I don’t think much of her, but she’s a politically sensible choice for them because she won’t alienate "moderate Republicans" too much + much of the liberal-left are a captive audience for Biden at this point anyway (because whatever issues they may have with him, they’re still going to do whatever it takes to get Trump out. Harris does nothing to change that formula.)
I’m not too invested in this news either way, because someone in Harris’ political realm was always going to be the pick. The Sanders left lost the minute the party consolidated around Biden in March, and there’s no consolation prize (and neither should they have expected any). |
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David
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Speaking of Facebook friends, I feel mean laughing at them behind their back – and I like this person a lot, political differences aside – but this made me giggle:
"Congratulations to the first black woman on a major party ticket. And no, she’s not perfect. You had your chance with HRC and you blew it."
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I found this amusing
go to google and ask for
Finnish word for horrible
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