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Pies4shaw 
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| ^^^^ That's the problem with Aussie kids: no get up and go. These guys should be ashamed of themselves. Like my Dad always used to say, it doesn't matter what you do in life, as long as you succeed. |
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Pies4shaw
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| Also, if you stop to think about it, targeting the Paramatta Court House suggests that some of these kids lack a broader perspective. At least Pierre Bezukhov wanted to shoot Napoleon. |
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stui magpie 
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
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| Pies4shaw wrote: | | ^^^^ That's the problem with Aussie kids: no get up and go. These guys should be ashamed of themselves. Like my Dad always used to say, it doesn't matter what you do in life, as long as you succeed. |
Unless of course you succeed at being a loser.
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Pies4shaw
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^^^ Point taken.
Another of his favourite sayings is still the following retort: "I'm a complete loser." - "No you're not - nobody's perfect." |
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stui magpie
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
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Which is why when I meet stuck up people who ask me who I am, I reply "I'm Nobody". 
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watt price tully 
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Well I suppose you didn't directly blame David for this.
I blame it on ignorance & the politics of hate.
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Pies4shaw
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Mugwump
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Well I suppose you didn't directly blame David for this.
I blame it on ignorance & the politics of hate. |
Police are currently questioning a vague abstraction about the matter.
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Pies4shaw
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| Yes, because International Capital snuck away from the scene, as usual, to murder the poor, hungry and homeless by the millions. |
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Mugwump
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Correction : Police are currently questioning an even vaguer abstraction. No detection or patrols were required on this occasion and any resemblance to actual persons or groups making bombs for use on crowded streets was purely coincidental.
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watt price tully
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| Mugwump wrote: | | watt price tully wrote: |
Well I suppose you didn't directly blame David for this.
I blame it on ignorance & the politics of hate. |
Police are currently questioning a vague abstraction about the matter. |
The police have arrested the 1960's - so much more specific.
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watt price tully
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| Mugwump wrote: | | Correction : Police are currently questioning an even vaguer abstraction. No detection or patrols were required on this occasion and any resemblance to actual persons or groups making bombs for use on crowded streets was purely coincidental. |
Correction: Police do what they're asked to do such as arrest alleged perpetrators of crime & good luck to them.
The last time I looked Police don't explain why things occur. It seems the responses you've provided are consistent with police behaviour.
Hate & ignorance are necessary but not sufficient factors to explain such behaviour.
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Mugwump
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| watt price tully wrote: | | Mugwump wrote: | | watt price tully wrote: |
Well I suppose you didn't directly blame David for this.
I blame it on ignorance & the politics of hate. |
Police are currently questioning a vague abstraction about the matter. |
The police have arrested the 1960's - so much more specific. |
But irrelevant, since I have never blamed Islamic extremism on the 1960s. You also claimed in an earlier post that I blamed the Left for Islamic extremism, which is also untrue. Islamic extremism is a perversion arising from the shape and structure of Islam, which has a lot of violence in ts core texts reflecting the harsh and militarised environment from which it sprang 1400 years ago. This is the ethos being centrifuged out of failing, violent and misogynistic societies such as Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq et al.
How this archaic Arab religion came to be murdering children on our streets and slaughtering our satirical journalists is another matter, for which the modern multi-culti Left should bear considerable responsibility, though it will doubtless be untroubled by such inadmissible thoughts. Admonitions against ignorance and hate, however heartfelt, do not take us too far in dealing with a murderous and cancerous ideology which does not share our hand-wringing. Recognising the source, naming it, and acting to contain it within our frayed traditions of liberty and tolerance is all that can be done, at this point.
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watt price tully
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| Mugwump wrote: | | watt price tully wrote: | | Mugwump wrote: | | watt price tully wrote: |
Well I suppose you didn't directly blame David for this.
I blame it on ignorance & the politics of hate. |
Police are currently questioning a vague abstraction about the matter. |
The police have arrested the 1960's - so much more specific. |
But irrelevant, since I have never blamed Islamic extremism on the 1960s. You also claimed in an earlier post that I blamed the Left for Islamic extremism, which is also untrue. Islamic extremism is a perversion arising from the shape and structure of Islam, which has a lot of violence in ts core texts reflecting the harsh and militarised environment from which it sprang 1400 years ago. This is the ethos being centrifuged out of failing, violent and misogynistic societies such as Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq et al.
How this archaic Arab religion came to be murdering children on our streets and slaughtering our satirical journalists is another matter, for which the modern multi-culti Left should bear considerable responsibility, though it will doubtless be untroubled by such inadmissible thoughts. ...... |
With all due respect, the modern multi cul left should bear considerable responsibility for the the actions of Islamist / jihadist fanatics? That belongs to the WTF thread. Simply making scatter gun simplistic apportioning of blame for your hobby horse ...left blaming is no substitute for reason.
1. Immigration policies in Australia at least are (more or less) bipartisan. To suggest, imply or infer that it is of the left or a section of the the left is self serving nonsense
2. At times of economic & social uncertainty scapegoating is invariably the pattern of behaviour one expects (I should know) - blaming of the other.
3. None of 1 or 2 above does not mean the left, right, middle & other can't examine & evaluate immigration policies of the past. But to say one part of the left somehow has considerable responsibility for the bombings of 9/11, 7/7 and Paris etc. appears shrill.
4. Had the US not been so stupid & greedy in the invasion of Iraq & instead worked with the Baathists to keep some institutions of government then we would not be in half the mess we are in now.
5. Had the US not funded the Pakistani's & mujaheddin so well then the Taliban would not be so powerful a position as they are now.
6. (4 & 5) above do not mean that the US alone is to blame. They do however mean that there are a number of reasons to explain why the Salalfist Jihadi nutters (one form of Salafism to which you allude) can go about their deplorable business to day.
7. Inextricably related to 6 above is how can we allow in Australia (& worse in the UK) the preachers extremism for want of another term & the recruiters of young impressionable males mostly to listen / be influenced by the preachers of hate & ignorance. To simply blame the left might make the extreme right feel good about itself but does nothing to further debate & misses an opportunity for serious consideration of the issues - it's on par with idiots who yell out fascist at the earliest opportunity.
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Skids 
Quitting drinking will be one of the best choices you make in your life.
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