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Piesnchess
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| 5 from the wing on debut wrote: | | Piesnchess wrote: | | Lazza wrote: | | ronrat wrote: | | Apparently concussing our players is a guilt free offence, Even more so if the hitter is of a so called disadvantaged background. Yaet Keane gets a week for a incident largely caused by Kunteddy. MRP has been a joke since Jason Cloke got fitted up. Get rid of it if it can not be impartial. |
Nah it will never happen. The MRP being impartial when dealing with Collingwood is to expect the impossible. As you said we have been stitched up numerous times. To not acknowledge these is to live in constant denial which is something I don’t do. The worst was when Pebbles was suspended for the Grand Final for an extremely iffy supposed strike. Such blatant bullshit🤬 My years of experience don’t lie. |
True comrade, and let us not forget that thug Barry Hall, KOd a Weagles player with a vicious round house right, and somehow, somehow, got off, on orders from the corrupt League, cos they wanted the Swannies to win the Premiership, so they quashed it. To this day, it was the most utterly corrupt decision of any League tribunal, KO a player, an u get off to be in a Premiership. ! Unreal. unreal.  |
PNC, I think that you are a bit confused about different events.
Hall received a 7 week suspension in 2008 for belting Staker.
Sydney didn't play in the GF in that year.
You are thinking of 2005 when he punched Matt Maguire in the stomach and was offered a one week suspension but challenged it and won with a reprimand being given. |
OH ok, i could have swore it was Staker in a Final, but i stand corrected. But, for punching McGuire in the stomach surely warrants a two week suspension, as a Magpie player would have got, back it in, so in that regard, it was a disgraceful decision to help the Swannettes snare a Premiership, of that i have no doubt. 
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Lazza
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Location: Bendigo, Victoria, Australia
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FWIW l am totally convinced that this was the case. Not a doubt in my mind.
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KickTruly 
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Very interesting and comprehensive wiki sheet about Buddy Franklin.
He is 34 years old, mostly injured the last 2 years.
Very impressive stats, mostly when he was at Hawthorn (2 flags), not as much at Sydney as no flags.
Did kick plenty of goals consistently. How many games did he win off his own boot?
His 9-year contract worth $10 million started in 2013 so must run out end of next year. (Can he retire before then?)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lance_Franklin
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Pies4shaw
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| He's kicked about as many goals per game at Sydney (375 from 122 games) as he did at Hawthorn (580 from 182). He hasn't been available too often in the recent past (and didn't play at all in 2020) but if he plays, you should expect him to kick between 3 and 5 goals against us. He was goalless against Melbourne but did well against the 3 other lower-ranked sides he played against so far this year. Query whether he'll back up after that Melbourne game, though. |
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Piesnchess
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| Pies4shaw wrote: | | He's kicked about as many goals per game at Sydney (375 from 122 games) as he did at Hawthorn (580 from 182). He hasn't been available too often in the recent past (and didn't play at all in 2020) but if he plays, you should expect him to kick between 3 and 5 goals against us. He was goalless against Melbourne but did well against the 3 other lower-ranked sides he played against so far this year. Query whether he'll back up after that Melbourne game, though. |
Buddy was paid a Kings ransom, ten million or so, over 9 yrs, to help deliver a Premiership, to the Swans, and that has not happened. So in that respect, aside from bums on seats, its been a failure to recruit him, plus hes been injury plagued too, missed far too many games.
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Ronnie McKeowns boots
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Buddy's contract was heavily backended as well a Swans supporting mate tells me; he is getting 1.5 million this year and next guaranteed, regardless of if he plays a game
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Raw Hammer
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| Piesnchess wrote: | | Pies4shaw wrote: | | He's kicked about as many goals per game at Sydney (375 from 122 games) as he did at Hawthorn (580 from 182). He hasn't been available too often in the recent past (and didn't play at all in 2020) but if he plays, you should expect him to kick between 3 and 5 goals against us. He was goalless against Melbourne but did well against the 3 other lower-ranked sides he played against so far this year. Query whether he'll back up after that Melbourne game, though. |
Buddy was paid a Kings ransom, ten million or so, over 9 yrs, to help deliver a Premiership, to the Swans, and that has not happened. So in that respect, aside from bums on seats, its been a failure to recruit him, plus hes been injury plagued too, missed far too many games. |
I disagree. They made the grand final twice, he was their best player vs Hawthorn in the 2014 GF, Sydney would have also won 2016 GF if he didn’t injure his foot/leg in the first quarter (scored were tied with a few mins to go). They’re damn hard to make, let alone win.
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Pies4shaw
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| It's OK, Raw Hammer - everyone knows that Collingwood has no use at all for a forward who can kick 3+ goals per game over the last 7 seasons of a 16-year career. We've got dozens of forwards who've had 88 Brownlow votes since the start of 2014, too. |
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warburton lad
Joined: 26 Aug 2003
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Ins: Wilson.. Kelly.. Sier... Callum Brown
Outs: Roughead, Murphy, Mayne, Thomas
McRae will be injury sub.
Wilson to back pocket
Kelly to Centre half back
Quaynor to wing
Callum Brown roving
Sidey to the forward half- expect Grundy to start forward with Cameron as the number one ruck...
Pies by 17 points in a boilover
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Side By Side
Joined: 30 Jun 2005
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| Lazza wrote: | ^^^^
FWIW l am totally convinced that this was the case. Not a doubt in my mind. |
me too!
the AFL loves to involve itsself and get the results it wants - have a look at the dogs free kick count in 2016, and have a look who is on top of the free kick ladder when they are again up there!
hall never should have played, i mean compare it to Jason Clokes suspension, ridiculous
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| ronrat wrote: | | Apparently concussing our players is a guilt free offence, Even more so if the hitter is of a so called disadvantaged background. Yaet Keane gets a week for a incident largely caused by Kunteddy. MRP has been a joke since Jason Cloke got fitted up. Get rid of it if it can not be impartial. |
hehe, i came back looking for this, and saw your jason cloke after i posted mine!!!
point is this, you are dead right, and come finals time it will get very interesting, i have no doubt at all that a player or a team will take advantage of the rule and its just plain wrong. last game of the year, and your playing the same team you will play next week in an elimination final, do you sacrifice a player to take out a big gun? yeah i can think of some teams/players that would
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Jezza 
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| Cruisinwithdids wrote: | | Swans average over 90 points a game, so are not as defensive as they used to be. They have some excellent kids along with the return of Franklin and Rampe, although Heeney and Reid likely to miss. They are well coached and on the right track. It’s a game we would have pencilled in before round 1, but how things have changed. |
The average 'points for' statistic for Sydney is a little misleading once you split it in half.
Round 1 = 125
Round 2 = 121
Round 3 = 117
Round 4 = 83
Average = 111.5
Round 5 = 69
Round 6 = 60
Round 7 = 90
Round 8 = 58
Average = 69.25
Since round 4, the Swans scoring has dried up with them only scoring 90+ once in that period, which was a 2-point win over Geelong in the dying seconds.
Keep them to under 70 or 80 points, and we're a chance of winning. They've won all their games when they've scored 83+ points.
I do agree they structure up well though and keep things tight as the Melbourne game last week demonstrated. Two of their three losses have been under 10 points with a bad defeat (40 points) to the Suns being the exception.
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Jezza
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| Pies4shaw wrote: | We didn't play at the SCG between 2000 and 2015. We've played 5 games against Sydney there, since (1 each year). The results were 2 wins and 3 losses - and we've won 2 of the last 3 there (and 3 of the last 4 against the Swans - we beat them by 9 points in 2020 at the Gabba):
- 2019 (won by 7 points)
- 2018 (lost by 2 points)
- 2017 (won by 1 point)
- 2016 (lost by 80 points)
- 2015 (lost by 11 points). |
Guess which year I decided to travel up to Sydney and attend the game? 
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Rd10.1998_11.1#36
rd10.1998_11.1#36
Joined: 18 Jul 2018
Location: Sevilla, Spain
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| Jezza wrote: |
The average 'points for' statistic for Sydney is a little misleading once you split it in half. |
Makes more sense to me to split it like this:
Round 1 = 125
Round 2 = 121
Round 3 = 117
Average = 121
Round 4 = 83
Round 5 = 69
Round 6 = 60
Round 7 = 90
Round 8 = 58
Average = 72
| Jezza wrote: | | Keep them to under 70 or 80 points, and we're chance of winning |
Our average PF is 75... but if you do the same split as I did with the Swans above (over/under 100), it's 70. Meanwhile our average PA is 85
Also, Swans kicking 90 against Cats is no mean feat... not sure about this year but I rate them the best defense of previous seasons
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bally12 
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| warburton lad wrote: | Ins: Wilson.. Kelly.. Sier... Callum Brown
Outs: Roughead, Murphy, Mayne, Thomas
McRae will be injury sub.
Wilson to back pocket
Kelly to Centre half back
Quaynor to wing
Callum Brown roving
Sidey to the forward half- expect Grundy to start forward with Cameron as the number one ruck...
Pies by 17 points in a boilover |
I like this WL. With Sidey I'd have him as a high half forward making runs towards goals, not in a traditional lead-out role.
I think you are right on C Brown, he's not an outside player and the only way he can have a chance to make it is as an inside mid.....maybe.
I can't believe people are calling for Madgen to come back in. He was awful even in the VFL last week. |
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