O'Meara wants out of Suns

[MatthewBoydFanClub]

[Collingwood Crackerjack]

[thompsoc]

[Boot]

I think this trade period will see an unprecedented amount of player trades with Collingwood to again dominate the headline deals with the master trader Grubby Allen back in the driver seat at Collingwood.

Major deals to go through;
1. Jager O'Meara for Jarrod Witts, Josh Thomas and Adam Oxley
2. Tom Boyd and Jake Stringer for Travis Cloke and Tim Broomhead
3. Sam Reid for Jamie Elliot
4. Marley Williams for Ed Langdon and an upgrade of draft picks with some swaps to enhance Collingwoods stock of picks to ensure the father son picks of Callum Brown and Nick Daicos.
5. Nathan Brown (free agent) to Brisbane or St.Kilda to get Collingwood first or second round draft pick
6. Jarryd Blair (free agent) to Nth Melb or Brisbane to get Collingwood first or second round draft pick

This would leave Collingwood with a Round 1 2017 AFL team of potentially;
J.Howe, L.Keefe, T. Langdon
M.Scharenberg, B.Reid, J.Maynard
S.Sidebottom, A.Treloar, J.Aish
J.O'Meara,S.Reid , J.Stringer
A.Fasolo, , D.Moore, T.Boyd
B.Grundy, S.Pendlebury, T.Adams
J.DeGoey, L.Greenwood, J.Crisp, T.Varcoe

and for the VFL team;
J.Marsh, J.Frost, J.Ramsay
B.Sinclair, T.Goldsack, J.Smith
T.Phillips, C.Brown, E.Langdon
N.Daicos, J.White, J. Scharenberg (Draftee)
B.Crocker, C.Gault, D.Wyatt
M.Cox, R.Wills, B.Seir
M.Goodyear, B. Macaffer (VFL Captain) A. Toovey (VFL V.Captian)

The depth of Key Defenders is just OK with B.Reid, L.Keefe, J.Marsh and J.Frost is good enough with enough class flankers and midfielders to help them out if needed.
Plenty of class back flankers with B. Maynard, J.Howe, T.Langdon, J.Smith, B.Sinclair, J.Ramsay, M. Scharenberg, T.Goldsack
Class midfielders to burn with S.Pendlebury, S.Sidebottom,A.Trelaor, J.O'Meara, T.Adams, J.Aish, T.Varcoe, J.Criso, J.Degoey, L.Greenwood and youthful depth of E.Langdon, C.Brown, N.Daicos, T.Phillips, and hopefully J.Scharenberg
Key Forwards in D.Moore with any two of the following to play the back up ruckman and other forwards; T.Boyd, S.Reid, J.White, M.Cox
X-Factor Forwards; A.Fasolo and J.Stringer
Ruckmen: B.Grundy, M.Cox T.Boyd and J.White

The above trade in's of Tom Boyd and Jake Stringer from Footscray assumes that both are on the outer at the Western Oval and that the Bulldogs are desperate to extract themselves from the monstrous salary of Tom Boyd so Collingwood can swoop in to pick up Boyd via paying part of his salary for the duration of his existing contract in a deal that gets Cloke to the bulldogs as compensation and hopefully Boyd will blossom into a "Leigh Brown" type of big bodied forward/relief ruckman.
Clearly the wildcard is a deal for J.Stringer. Something is not working for him at Footscray given he is out of the team now but to get someone with as much talent we have to give up something and Tim Broomhead or Jamie Elliot is the one to throw up to get the Bulldogs something to think about.
Similarly for S.Reid from Sydney we would have to give up a talent to get this big talent, albeit injury prone, key position player, hence either Tim Broomhead or Jamie Elliot is the type of player we can give up to gain the better team balanced squad.

Jagger O'Meara is a big risk given his suspect knees, but so was Swanny for the last five years with his lifestyle and injuries so we would be no worse off. His upside is enough to get very excited about and is the additional A-Class type of player to take the team into Premiership considerations if he can reach his potential. Tim Watson rated him with the potential to be the greatest ever midfielder!!

Bring on the Silly Season!!
Go Pies.

[Boot]

I think this trade period will see an unprecedented amount of player trades with Collingwood to again dominate the headline deals with the master trader Grubby Allen back in the driver seat at Collingwood.

Major deals to go through;
1. Jager O'Meara for Jarrod Witts, Josh Thomas and Adam Oxley
2. Tom Boyd and Jake Stringer for Travis Cloke and Tim Broomhead
3. Sam Reid for Jamie Elliot
4. Marley Williams for Ed Langdon and an upgrade of draft picks with some swaps to enhance Collingwoods stock of picks to ensure the father son picks of Callum Brown and Nick Daicos.
5. Nathan Brown (free agent) to Brisbane or St.Kilda to get Collingwood first or second round draft pick
6. Jarryd Blair (free agent) to Nth Melb or Brisbane to get Collingwood first or second round draft pick

This would leave Collingwood with a Round 1 2017 AFL team of potentially;
J.Howe, L.Keefe, T. Langdon
M.Scharenberg, B.Reid, J.Maynard
S.Sidebottom, A.Treloar, J.Aish
J.O'Meara,S.Reid , J.Stringer
A.Fasolo, , D.Moore, T.Boyd
B.Grundy, S.Pendlebury, T.Adams
J.DeGoey, L.Greenwood, J.Crisp, T.Varcoe

and for the VFL team;
J.Marsh, J.Frost, J.Ramsay
B.Sinclair, T.Goldsack, J.Smith
T.Phillips, C.Brown, E.Langdon
N.Daicos, J.White, J. Scharenberg (Draftee)
B.Crocker, C.Gault, D.Wyatt
M.Cox, R.Wills, B.Seir
M.Goodyear, B. Macaffer (VFL Captain) A. Toovey (VFL V.Captian)

The depth of Key Defenders is just OK with B.Reid, L.Keefe, J.Marsh and J.Frost is good enough with enough class flankers and midfielders to help them out if needed.
Plenty of class back flankers with B. Maynard, J.Howe, T.Langdon, J.Smith, B.Sinclair, J.Ramsay, M. Scharenberg, T.Goldsack
Class midfielders to burn with S.Pendlebury, S.Sidebottom,A.Trelaor, J.O'Meara, T.Adams, J.Aish, T.Varcoe, J.Criso, J.Degoey, L.Greenwood and youthful depth of E.Langdon, C.Brown, N.Daicos, T.Phillips, and hopefully J.Scharenberg
Key Forwards in D.Moore with any two of the following to play the back up ruckman and other forwards; T.Boyd, S.Reid, J.White, M.Cox
X-Factor Forwards; A.Fasolo and J.Stringer
Ruckmen: B.Grundy, M.Cox T.Boyd and J.White

The above trade in's of Tom Boyd and Jake Stringer from Footscray assumes that both are on the outer at the Western Oval and that the Bulldogs are desperate to extract themselves from the monstrous salary of Tom Boyd so Collingwood can swoop in to pick up Boyd via paying part of his salary for the duration of his existing contract in a deal that gets Cloke to the bulldogs as compensation and hopefully Boyd will blossom into a "Leigh Brown" type of big bodied forward/relief ruckman.
Clearly the wildcard is a deal for J.Stringer. Something is not working for him at Footscray given he is out of the team now but to get someone with as much talent we have to give up something and Tim Broomhead or Jamie Elliot is the one to throw up to get the Bulldogs something to think about.
Similarly for S.Reid from Sydney we would have to give up a talent to get this big talent, albeit injury prone, key position player, hence either Tim Broomhead or Jamie Elliot is the type of player we can give up to gain the better team balanced squad.

Jagger O'Meara is a big risk given his suspect knees, but so was Swanny for the last five years with his lifestyle and injuries so we would be no worse off. His upside is enough to get very excited about and is the additional A-Class type of player to take the team into Premiership considerations if he can reach his potential. Tim Watson rated him with the potential to be the greatest ever midfielder!!

Bring on the Silly Season!!
Go Pies.

[Boot]

I think this trade period will see an unprecedented amount of player trades with Collingwood to again dominate the headline deals with the master trader Grubby Allen back in the driver seat at Collingwood.

Major deals to go through;
1. Jager O'Meara for Jarrod Witts, Josh Thomas and Adam Oxley
2. Tom Boyd and Jake Stringer for Travis Cloke and Tim Broomhead
3. Sam Reid for Jamie Elliot
4. Marley Williams for Ed Langdon and an upgrade of draft picks with some swaps to enhance Collingwoods stock of picks to ensure the father son picks of Callum Brown and Nick Daicos.
5. Nathan Brown (free agent) to Brisbane or St.Kilda to get Collingwood first or second round draft pick
6. Jarryd Blair (free agent) to Nth Melb or Brisbane to get Collingwood first or second round draft pick

This would leave Collingwood with a Round 1 2017 AFL team of potentially;
J.Howe, L.Keefe, T. Langdon
M.Scharenberg, B.Reid, J.Maynard
S.Sidebottom, A.Treloar, J.Aish
J.O'Meara,S.Reid , J.Stringer
A.Fasolo, , D.Moore, T.Boyd
B.Grundy, S.Pendlebury, T.Adams
J.DeGoey, L.Greenwood, J.Crisp, T.Varcoe

and for the VFL team;
J.Marsh, J.Frost, J.Ramsay
B.Sinclair, T.Goldsack, J.Smith
T.Phillips, C.Brown, E.Langdon
N.Daicos, J.White, J. Scharenberg (Draftee)
B.Crocker, C.Gault, D.Wyatt
M.Cox, R.Wills, B.Seir
M.Goodyear, B. Macaffer (VFL Captain) A. Toovey (VFL V.Captian)

The depth of Key Defenders is just OK with B.Reid, L.Keefe, J.Marsh and J.Frost is good enough with enough class flankers and midfielders to help them out if needed.
Plenty of class back flankers with B. Maynard, J.Howe, T.Langdon, J.Smith, B.Sinclair, J.Ramsay, M. Scharenberg, T.Goldsack
Class midfielders to burn with S.Pendlebury, S.Sidebottom,A.Trelaor, J.O'Meara, T.Adams, J.Aish, T.Varcoe, J.Criso, J.Degoey, L.Greenwood and youthful depth of E.Langdon, C.Brown, N.Daicos, T.Phillips, and hopefully J.Scharenberg
Key Forwards in D.Moore with any two of the following to play the back up ruckman and other forwards; T.Boyd, S.Reid, J.White, M.Cox
X-Factor Forwards; A.Fasolo and J.Stringer
Ruckmen: B.Grundy, M.Cox T.Boyd and J.White

The above trade in's of Tom Boyd and Jake Stringer from Footscray assumes that both are on the outer at the Western Oval and that the Bulldogs are desperate to extract themselves from the monstrous salary of Tom Boyd so Collingwood can swoop in to pick up Boyd via paying part of his salary for the duration of his existing contract in a deal that gets Cloke to the bulldogs as compensation and hopefully Boyd will blossom into a "Leigh Brown" type of big bodied forward/relief ruckman.
Clearly the wildcard is a deal for J.Stringer. Something is not working for him at Footscray given he is out of the team now but to get someone with as much talent we have to give up something and Tim Broomhead or Jamie Elliot is the one to throw up to get the Bulldogs something to think about.
Similarly for S.Reid from Sydney we would have to give up a talent to get this big talent, albeit injury prone, key position player, hence either Tim Broomhead or Jamie Elliot is the type of player we can give up to gain the better team balanced squad.

Jagger O'Meara is a big risk given his suspect knees, but so was Swanny for the last five years with his lifestyle and injuries so we would be no worse off. His upside is enough to get very excited about and is the additional A-Class type of player to take the team into Premiership considerations if he can reach his potential. Tim Watson rated him with the potential to be the greatest ever midfielder!!

Bring on the Silly Season!!
Go Pies.

[thompsoc]

I was with you boot until you said we would get a first or second round
pick for blair.
You also assumed someone would want him.
Hope you are right Mr Boot.
A decent draft pick for Blair would be great.

[Funkadelic]

Boot I have to believe your smoking some strong stuff to think we get those deals done. Pass that Dutch buddy!

[RudeBoy]

Assuming we trade Witts, Cloke and possibly Oxley and/or Broomhead, we should be able to snare Hoskins-Elliott from the Giants and Sam Reid from the Swans.

That should still allow us to get another key position player plus our two father/sons in Daicos and Brown.

If we can achieve all that, then, assuming no injury disasters, we'll be in a good position to storm up the ladder next year.

[stui magpie]

[35forever]

That is some seriously top shelf African stinky-hybrid Kush 29% Dong-Dong buds you got yourself there! Be a good fella & share...
No! Not with us! With Dekka & Gubby so they'll have the stones to go make those deals! Just make sure they take six packs of Monte Carlos!
But then they probably won't be able to stop giggling, same with the other teams when they hear our proposals.
But I like the first one! If we start 2017 with O'Meara, Daicos, & Brown, plus a couple of Dekka specials from the 60's & 70's in the draft, I'll be a happy bunny. Add Ramsay, Elliot, & Shazza to that & you have a side where seriously good players will have to spend time in the VFL each week.

I know a lot of folks are stressed about KPPs, but its not that cut & dried, a big-bodied mid can be a KPP these days. Really the thing several teams need is big bastards, great big strong buggers, and if they can run all day so much the better.

You NEVER knock back a player like a Jaeger (German for 'hunter' for the few who didn't know), because you "already have that type". You don't! We aren't talking about a midfielder, we're talking about a possible Pendles, Swan, Fyfe, Ablett, etc. Obviously it's never certain. As we've heard this week, Swanny was looking at being de-listed before teaming up with Taz & Johnno who dragged him across the line to becoming one of the greats. At the other end there's someone like Sean Rusling who had all the weapons to be a great Forward but just couldn't overcome a devastating series of injuries. O'Meara had two full seasons playing with Gaz at his best, and he showed enough to make it clear he had the goods to become that rarest of things; a game-changer. The guy who can do what most can't, and win games off his own boot. It's always worth taking that chance, and his suspect knees may be the only reason we're in with a chance of getting him.

PS: @Thomsoc; What the hell did Jarryd Blair do to you, or your sister? Have you seen him play? He's among our best regularly, and kicks match-winners often enough to justify selection on that basis alone! Are you thinking of someone else perhaps?

[thompsoc]

Mr 35forever.
I don't whinge much about players
but i do when they are not AFL standard
and they keep getting a game.
A couple of weeks back they dropped
JDG for Blair.
WTF!
Hopefully he can be traded this draft period.
Remember 35forever he has 13 goals this year.
And he is a forward.

[35forever]

[35forever]

[thompsoc]

At least you gave a passionate reponse.
Which is good.
Blair is not the worst player to ever play at Collingwood.
But he averages about 14 goals per season over the last 5 years
His tackling is only good in a pack.
He has has no defensive side to his game once the ball gets out.
He is never front and square
He is slow
He often does not give first option.
He is reasonably good on a lead but he is a midget
He gets the worst defender every match
He often misses targets by hand and foot ( not alone there )
He stops guys like JDG from getting game time experience.
I could write more but I won't.
The way Blair divides this board means there are a lot of nicksters who
have grave doubts about his ability.
They are not divided with a lot of other players.