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Dave The Man 
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| Pies4shaw wrote: | | The real question is whether Collingwood is stupid enough to persevere with Cox instead of Witts when Witts is younger and much better. Who in their right mind trades a guy willingly when he's capable of getting 52 hitouts, 20 disposals and 2 goals in the VFL (he will do that at AFL level soon enough) and is still way-off peaking? Then again, I suppose this is the same football department that wanted to trade him to GWS and recruit Kreuzer (a player no Carlton supporter wants) in his place, so I guess the question answers itself. |
Bit hard get a Game ahead of Grundy who since the Bye has been 1 of the Best Rucks in the AFL.
Big Difference between the VFL and AFL. Espically for Talls
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neil 
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Really hope Witts stays and improves his forward work
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| neil wrote: | | Really hope Witts stays and improves his forward work |
he will only ever be effective as a first ruck. we have one of those.
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jackcass 
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| neil wrote: | | Really hope Witts stays and improves his forward work |
I'm with you. |
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RudeBoy
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Why on earth would he stay when all he can look forward to is being insurance for an injury to Grundy?
I'd like the big fella to stick around too, but in all honesty I can't see him allowing his football career to be frustrated by playing second fiddle to Grundy and mostly in the VFL. It ain't gonna happen. He's gonski. Get used to the idea guys. That way you'll feel better about it when it happens. |
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stui magpie 
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Look, I've loved how Grundy has played in recent weeks too. Bloody great stuff.
However, Witts is also accelerating his rate of development as he gets closer to that optimum age for a ruck. Will Grundy keep improving or will he plateau and have Witts go past him? Will Grundy still be able to leap in 3 years time? If not his capacity to win centre bounces will go backwards.
Don't know, if I could see the future I'd be winning Tatts every weekend and making billions in the sharemarket and on the punt.
He may seem superfluous to our needs at the moment, but you don't make another team better because we're nice guys and want to give him a chance elsewhere, unless we get something bloody good in return. The people who sook about Ceglar performing at the Hawks would have apoplexia at how Witts would perform at Hawthorn or Sydney.
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Dave The Man
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| stui magpie wrote: | Look, I've loved how Grundy has played in recent weeks too. Bloody great stuff.
However, Witts is also accelerating his rate of development as he gets closer to that optimum age for a ruck. Will Grundy keep improving or will he plateau and have Witts go past him? Will Grundy still be able to leap in 3 years time? If not his capacity to win centre bounces will go backwards.
Don't know, if I could see the future I'd be winning Tatts every weekend and making billions in the sharemarket and on the punt.
He may seem superfluous to our needs at the moment, but you don't make another team better because we're nice guys and want to give him a chance elsewhere, unless we get something bloody good in return. The people who sook about Ceglar performing at the Hawks would have apoplexia at how Witts would perform at Hawthorn or Sydney. |
You would bring in a Mature Age Ruck to Replace Witts to have as Cover for Grundy
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| Or keep Witts in case he proves to be the better of the two. |
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Dave The Man
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| Pies4shaw wrote: | | Or keep Witts in case he proves to be the better of the two. |
Highly doubt as Witts would pretty have to be Best Ruck in the AFL
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John Wren 
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| Dave The Man wrote: | | stui magpie wrote: | Look, I've loved how Grundy has played in recent weeks too. Bloody great stuff.
However, Witts is also accelerating his rate of development as he gets closer to that optimum age for a ruck. Will Grundy keep improving or will he plateau and have Witts go past him? Will Grundy still be able to leap in 3 years time? If not his capacity to win centre bounces will go backwards.
Don't know, if I could see the future I'd be winning Tatts every weekend and making billions in the sharemarket and on the punt.
He may seem superfluous to our needs at the moment, but you don't make another team better because we're nice guys and want to give him a chance elsewhere, unless we get something bloody good in return. The people who sook about Ceglar performing at the Hawks would have apoplexia at how Witts would perform at Hawthorn or Sydney. |
You would bring in a Mature Age Ruck to Replace Witts to have as Cover for Grundy |
so, really you are looking for a witts type to replace witts and be happy to wait for his opportunity. 
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John Wren
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| stui magpie wrote: | | The people who sook about Ceglar performing at the Hawks would have apoplexia at how Witts would perform at Hawthorn or Sydney. |
ceglar finally plays his 50th game tonight. that will please many on this forum.
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Dave The Man
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| John Wren wrote: | | Dave The Man wrote: | | stui magpie wrote: | Look, I've loved how Grundy has played in recent weeks too. Bloody great stuff.
However, Witts is also accelerating his rate of development as he gets closer to that optimum age for a ruck. Will Grundy keep improving or will he plateau and have Witts go past him? Will Grundy still be able to leap in 3 years time? If not his capacity to win centre bounces will go backwards.
Don't know, if I could see the future I'd be winning Tatts every weekend and making billions in the sharemarket and on the punt.
He may seem superfluous to our needs at the moment, but you don't make another team better because we're nice guys and want to give him a chance elsewhere, unless we get something bloody good in return. The people who sook about Ceglar performing at the Hawks would have apoplexia at how Witts would perform at Hawthorn or Sydney. |
You would bring in a Mature Age Ruck to Replace Witts to have as Cover for Grundy |
so, really you are looking for a witts type to replace witts and be happy to wait for his opportunity. |
No. We need a Back-Up. We are looking for someone who can play Forward as well as Ruck
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stui magpie
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| Dave The Man wrote: | | John Wren wrote: | | Dave The Man wrote: | | stui magpie wrote: | Look, I've loved how Grundy has played in recent weeks too. Bloody great stuff.
However, Witts is also accelerating his rate of development as he gets closer to that optimum age for a ruck. Will Grundy keep improving or will he plateau and have Witts go past him? Will Grundy still be able to leap in 3 years time? If not his capacity to win centre bounces will go backwards.
Don't know, if I could see the future I'd be winning Tatts every weekend and making billions in the sharemarket and on the punt.
He may seem superfluous to our needs at the moment, but you don't make another team better because we're nice guys and want to give him a chance elsewhere, unless we get something bloody good in return. The people who sook about Ceglar performing at the Hawks would have apoplexia at how Witts would perform at Hawthorn or Sydney. |
You would bring in a Mature Age Ruck to Replace Witts to have as Cover for Grundy |
so, really you are looking for a witts type to replace witts and be happy to wait for his opportunity. |
No. We need a Back-Up. We are looking for someone who can play Forward as well as Ruck |
Which would be, in no particular order from our current list,
Grundy
Witts
White
Moore
Wyatt
Gault
Cox
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Dave The Man
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| stui magpie wrote: | | Dave The Man wrote: | | John Wren wrote: | | Dave The Man wrote: | | stui magpie wrote: | Look, I've loved how Grundy has played in recent weeks too. Bloody great stuff.
However, Witts is also accelerating his rate of development as he gets closer to that optimum age for a ruck. Will Grundy keep improving or will he plateau and have Witts go past him? Will Grundy still be able to leap in 3 years time? If not his capacity to win centre bounces will go backwards.
Don't know, if I could see the future I'd be winning Tatts every weekend and making billions in the sharemarket and on the punt.
He may seem superfluous to our needs at the moment, but you don't make another team better because we're nice guys and want to give him a chance elsewhere, unless we get something bloody good in return. The people who sook about Ceglar performing at the Hawks would have apoplexia at how Witts would perform at Hawthorn or Sydney. |
You would bring in a Mature Age Ruck to Replace Witts to have as Cover for Grundy |
so, really you are looking for a witts type to replace witts and be happy to wait for his opportunity. |
No. We need a Back-Up. We are looking for someone who can play Forward as well as Ruck |
Which would be, in no particular order from our current list,
Grundy
Witts
White
Moore
Wyatt
Gault
Cox |
None of them do Both Well. Closest to it at the Moment be Cox
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jackcass
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| RudeBoy wrote: | Why on earth would he stay when all he can look forward to is being insurance for an injury to Grundy?
I'd like the big fella to stick around too, but in all honesty I can't see him allowing his football career to be frustrated by playing second fiddle to Grundy and mostly in the VFL. It ain't gonna happen. He's gonski. Get used to the idea guys. That way you'll feel better about it when it happens. |
I think people are just a little quick writing off the potential for Grundy and Witts to work together at senior level. |
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