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thompsoc
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| Mugwump wrote: | | inxs88 wrote: | An A grader is a player whose:
* in your best 5 players
* has no discernible weaknesses
* does it 3-4 years consecutively
* threatens All Australian selection
* is often tagged or a nightmare for opposition analyst
* is elite in kicking, pace, defensive areas and skills
So is Jack Crisp an A grader yet? No. Lets review in 2018 |
Yep, nailed it nicely there. |
absolutely true!
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AN_Inkling
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| inxs88 wrote: | An A grader is a player whose:
* in your best 5 players
* has no discernible weaknesses
* does it 3-4 years consecutively
* threatens All Australian selection
* is often tagged or a nightmare for opposition analyst
* is elite in kicking, pace, defensive areas and skills
So is Jack Crisp an A grader yet? No. Lets review in 2018 |
That's only if you want to use hindsight!
Also there's a few too many elites in there. I think you might be talking about the one perfect player, certainly an elite player, not just an A-grader. In 2010 we were seen as having 7-8 A-graders. My question is, has Crisp's 2015 season been of an A-grade calibre? I say it has.
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inxs88
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| AN_Inkling wrote: | | inxs88 wrote: | An A grader is a player whose:
* in your best 5 players
* has no discernible weaknesses
* does it 3-4 years consecutively
* threatens All Australian selection
* is often tagged or a nightmare for opposition analyst
* is elite in kicking, pace, defensive areas and skills
So is Jack Crisp an A grader yet? No. Lets review in 2018 |
That's only if you want to use hindsight!
Also there's a few too many elites in there. I think you might be talking about the one perfect player, certainly an elite player, not just an A-grader. In 2010 we were seen as having 7-8 A-graders. My question is, has Crisp's 2015 season been of an A-grade calibre? I say it has. |
Good points but is he better than the following B graders:
1. Liam Shiels
2. Bernie Vince
3. Lachie Hunter
4. Jack Newnes
5. Tom Lynch (Crows)
6. Dean Rampe
7. Zach Merrett
8. Dayne Zorko???
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blakis
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| AN_Inkling wrote: | | thompsoc wrote: | | Bucks2014 wrote: | | thompsoc wrote: | | swoop42 wrote: | So out of the Beams deal we landed de Goey at pick 5 who has all the traits to be a future star, Greenwood who finished second in Norths B&F last season and now Crisp who has finished 3rd in ours.
Throw in Treloar who placed 2nd with GWS this year and things are looking up. |
Yep, the Pies are going to win the next 5 flags, we are that good.
Beams and Heater best for their teams this year.
We gain a lot but also lost a lot.
I like Crisp but his disposal is second rate.
I like his size but we will wait and see.
I find it frustrating how people talk up the side when
we have slid backwards.
When we start sliding forward then I will start getting excited. |
Why are you so negative? You seem to only like the blokes we've let go. Crisps disposal is far from second rate, he is an absolute ripper. One of my favourites, but Pendles will always win out. |
Averaging under 70% effective disposals and close to 3 clangers a match.
That is not A grade material.
But you know better. |
Sorry, but without proper context, effective disposals is probably the most useless stat in evaluating a player. Did you know that Frost was 4th best in the league this year with 87.3%? Must be an elite kick.
Also, Dangerfield's disposal was at 67% and 3.4 clangers compared to Crisp's 69% and 2.7 clangers. A player's role heavily dictates these numbers and there is no magical kicking efficiency barrier for A grade status. By the eye test I would say that Crisp's kicking was good this season, both finishing for goal well and hitting forward targets. |
You might need to apply some cream to that burn!!! |
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"What Good Fortune For Governments That The People Do Not Think" - Adolf Hitler.
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Has the potential of being an A Grader but has a long way to go. I am very pleased and impressed by his efforts in 2015 and he has exceeded my expectation but one good season is a starting point.
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^To the tattoo parlour. Another original piece of artwork adorns his arm now
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Gees fancy whinging about him being in boxers! black, white, tight would be the only improvement I could see!
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Neil Appleby 
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| think positive wrote: | | Gees fancy whinging about him being in boxers! black, white, tight would be the only improvement I could see! |
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Joel 
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| What a joke that this is even an article. |
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Dave The Man 
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Location: Someville, Victoria, Australia
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CH 7 said he signed a new 3-Year Deal.
He get a Nice Pay Rise
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gurugeoff
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| Good to hear - with security and a great income, he should be a happy boy which hopefully will flow on to his footy. |
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CarringbushCigar
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| gurugeoff wrote: | | Good to hear - with security and a great income, he should be a happy boy which hopefully will flow on to his footy. |
Great news - tracking well to becoming a Pies premiership legend |
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Bob Sugar
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Security makes some guys lazy.
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