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Hawthorn's version of the Do Better report

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Jezza Taurus

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 1:35 pm
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Very disturbing read.

If the allegations are true, hard to see Clarkson and Fagan continuing on with their senior coaching jobs.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 1:39 pm
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Hawthorn should probably stop referring to themselves as the "Family Club" Shocked
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 1:44 pm
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These are serious breaches of OHS, even as unproven allegations — opens up lawsuits.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 1:55 pm
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I wonder if old Kennett has shat his daks yet, over this far reaching report, how much was he involved in this stuff, the so called, Family Club ? ?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 1:58 pm
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how long before - iinet, nissan, adidas, and kfc have something to say...

how long before mazda pushes a button on North?

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 2:00 pm
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It is a disturbing read, but I agree with slangman. The version of events we're reading is from disgruntled ex-partners of the players involved. How are we to know if the players weren't using the club to help extract them from toxic relationships (that they may have cited as the reason for their football shortcomings)?

Not condoning the actions, just saying that it must've been a pretty bad situation for the club to become involved like this. It's not commonplace for football clubs to involve themselves in the personal affairs of their employees unless there are underlying circumstances.

Still, our "do better" report pales into insignificance compared to this.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 2:18 pm
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If it was said in jest, like we do when players are having babies during finals and we say they should get the snip/be celibate, maybe. But given the report, and the formal complaints then and now, not likely jest at all. There’s also cultural sensitivity with the indigenous players. There’s more to the report that’s not being made public.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 2:19 pm
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Mr Miyagi wrote:
Name and shame those in the media who knew about this but didn’t say boo when they dragged Collingwood through the mud.

Yeah, just like they were bagging Collingwood for the Stephenson trade, but didn't have the guts to report on the real reasons he was traded out.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 2:29 pm
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Shit, we dodged a massive bullet here. Imagine if Clarko was coaching us right now? If all true, there is no way Clarko at least can continue to coach a club. North got screwed hard here.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 2:30 pm
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tbaker wrote:
Mr Miyagi wrote:
Name and shame those in the media who knew about this but didn’t say boo when they dragged Collingwood through the mud.

Yeah, just like they were bagging Collingwood for the Stephenson trade, but didn't have the guts to report on the real reasons he was traded out.


Paper bag was allegedly exchanged for one hotel not to take it to media or police. Club paid for damages and they were happy with that, to be fair. But yeah, media knew and the other stuff but didn’t say boo. With the Hawthorn report, they would look incredibly hypocritical if they don’t go hard like they did with Collingwood’s issues. And they are from what we’re seeing. Some are still waiting for more detail or investigation, which is understandable given the legal ramifications.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 2:42 pm
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Graham Wright?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 2:47 pm
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Deja Vu wrote:
Graham Wright?


Would he have been aware of the complaints when at Hawthorn? He was recruitment and list management.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 2:54 pm
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Ended up as Footy Manager though didn't he? I guess that was after these events?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:29 pm
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glasseyevfx wrote:
I've never been happier that MacRae is coach - he seems squeaky clean.


not sure about squeaky, he was involved in a brawl at the Prince of Wales during his playing days. they were harassing a blokes girlfriend.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:29 pm
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Mr Miyagi wrote:
Deja Vu wrote:
Graham Wright?


Would he have been aware of the complaints when at Hawthorn? He was recruitment and list management.


ITS Clarko and Fagan, main allegations, and maybe Kennett, who was Prez during all this stuff. Surprised

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