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MagpieBat
Joined: 27 Nov 2010
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| Post subject: Re: Aish,Adams,Grundy,Moore,Treloar = Future of Collingwood |  |
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| jackcass wrote: | | jmac70 wrote: | | MagpieBat wrote: | | jmac70 wrote: | | It's an exciting list of names. With Daicos and Brown hopefully joining next season we should be in for some good times! |
Welcome to the madhouse, jmac...  |
Thanks mate. Seems a bit calmer here! |
Oh give it time! |
Are you trying to encourage or discourage here, Daz?
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jackcass 
Joined: 01 Mar 2005
Location: Bendigo
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| Post subject: Re: Aish,Adams,Grundy,Moore,Treloar = Future of Collingwood | |
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| MagpieBat wrote: | | jackcass wrote: | | jmac70 wrote: | | MagpieBat wrote: | | jmac70 wrote: | | It's an exciting list of names. With Daicos and Brown hopefully joining next season we should be in for some good times! |
Welcome to the madhouse, jmac... |
Thanks mate. Seems a bit calmer here! |
Oh give it time! |
Are you trying to encourage or discourage here, Daz? |
Yes |
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RudeBoy
Joined: 28 Nov 2005
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The future will be based around the following players:
Grundy
Treloar
Pendles
Sidey
Moore
De Goey
Adams
Aish
Scharenberg
Maynard
Ramsay
Reid
Langdon
Wills
Smith
Elliott
That's 16 players, which is not a bad core to build a Premiership team around. |
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jackcass
Joined: 01 Mar 2005
Location: Bendigo
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| RudeBoy wrote: | | That's 16 players, which is not a bad core to build a Premiership team around. |
Particularly when you consider that there are another group on the fringe of that 16 who may or may not make it. |
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3rd degree 
Joined: 22 Jun 2004
Location: John Wren's tote
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Oxley feels on his pat malone.
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stui magpie 
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
Joined: 03 May 2005
Location: In flagrante delicto
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The Ox is patient. 
I'm going to go against the trend and also suggest Witts belongs in the list for our future.
He's 24 next month and his ruckwork and marking are coming on beautifully. The records are full of great ruckmen who didn't hit their straps til around 26. Witts will be a gun ruckman and I want that to be at Collingwood, not for some other club.
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HAL
Please don't shout at me - I can't help it.
Joined: 17 Mar 2003
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| Tell me more about your long history of domesticating and abusing animals and yes things change. Why do you want that to be at Collingwood not for some other club? |
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stui magpie
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
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| HAL wrote: | | Tell me more about your long history of domesticating and abusing animals and yes things change. Why do you want that to be at Collingwood not for some other club? |
Well, a lot of people consider my proclivity toward pumping domesticated animals full of helium to be horrible and cruel.
I say, Meh, whatever floats your goat.
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Dave The Man 
Joined: 01 Apr 2005
Location: Someville, Victoria, Australia
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| stui magpie wrote: | ^
I'm going to go against the trend and also suggest Witts belongs in the list for our future.
He's 24 next month and his ruckwork and marking are coming on beautifully. The records are full of great ruckmen who didn't hit their straps til around 26. Witts will be a gun ruckman and I want that to be at Collingwood, not for some other club. |
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Witts be great Depth but He wants to be the Number 1 Ruck. He won't be that at Collingwood. So he is pretty much gone at seasons end
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pies4shaw
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| Dave The Man wrote: | | Pies4shaw wrote: | | If we're listing 25 year olds like Cox, Sidebottom also qualifies (and so does Frost). |
Sidebottom is 26 |
Born 2 January 1991. 25. |
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BazBoy
Joined: 11 Sep 2014
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Just asking all for assesment on Witts and Grundy
I know Brod's on the way to greatness but will it ever
work with these two in 22 ----if Cloke were to go would the
resting ruck in fwd pocket style work with Witts
Old school footy I know so be interested in comment
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RudeBoy
Joined: 28 Nov 2005
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| barrybc41 wrote: | Just asking all for assesment on Witts and Grundy
I know Brod's on the way to greatness but will it ever
work with these two in 22 ----if Cloke were to go would the
resting ruck in fwd pocket style work with Witts
Old school footy I know so be interested in comment |
Not if we are persevering with Cox. |
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Pies4shaw
pies4shaw
Joined: 08 Oct 2007
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| The real question is whether Collingwood is stupid enough to persevere with Cox instead of Witts when Witts is younger and much better. Who in their right mind trades a guy willingly when he's capable of getting 52 hitouts, 20 disposals and 2 goals in the VFL (he will do that at AFL level soon enough) and is still way-off peaking? Then again, I suppose this is the same football department that wanted to trade him to GWS and recruit Kreuzer (a player no Carlton supporter wants) in his place, so I guess the question answers itself. |
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jackcass
Joined: 01 Mar 2005
Location: Bendigo
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| Pies4shaw wrote: | | The real question is whether Collingwood is stupid enough to persevere with Cox instead of Witts when Witts is younger and much better. Who in their right mind trades a guy willingly when he's capable of getting 52 hitouts, 20 disposals and 2 goals in the VFL (he will do that at AFL level soon enough) and is still way-off peaking? Then again, I suppose this is the same football department that wanted to trade him to GWS and recruit Kreuzer (a player no Carlton supporter wants) in his place, so I guess the question answers itself. |
Yep, that's it for mine. I'd hazard a guess that Mummy wasn't putting up those sort of numbers when the Cats traded him to Sydney. Jolly either when he was traded to Sydney. Or Jacobs when the Blues traded him to the Crows.
I guess you can have an oversupply but Witts appears primed to hit his straps and moving him on (unless forced by him to do so) defies logic. |
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RudeBoy
Joined: 28 Nov 2005
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| Pies4shaw wrote: | | The real question is whether Collingwood is stupid enough to persevere with Cox instead of Witts when Witts is younger and much better. Who in their right mind trades a guy willingly when he's capable of getting 52 hitouts, 20 disposals and 2 goals in the VFL (he will do that at AFL level soon enough) and is still way-off peaking? Then again, I suppose this is the same football department that wanted to trade him to GWS and recruit Kreuzer (a player no Carlton supporter wants) in his place, so I guess the question answers itself. |
I like Witts too, but I really can't see him getting a senior game while Grundy is going from strength to strength. Ideally, we would keep him as our reserve ruckman in case of an injury to Grundy, but that would be unfair to Witts. He deserves to be playing senior footy each week, but given Grundy's phenomenal improvement, that won't happen with us. Therefore, it would be best to trade him to another club where he can blossom as a first ruck. |
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