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Pies4shaw
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The Legislative Council seats were finalized today. I'm providing the ABC's summary because the WA Electoral Commission site doesn't give a summary of the House anywhere that I can see:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/elections/wa/2021/guide/lc-results
The ALP has a majority in both Houses. Strangely, the Daylight Savings Party has a seat in the Council, with just 98 primary votes and the Legalise Cannabis Party has two Council seats - that is, 5.6% of the Seats, although it got less than 2% of the vote.
"Above the line" preferential voting is probably now dead in WA, you'd think. |
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David
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Strange times when the Greens only get one seat and a party that more or less resembles parodies of the Greens from ~20 years ago manages to get twice as many. _________________ All watched over by machines of loving grace |
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Pies4shaw
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^ with a third of the vote!
The Libs and Nats also copped it, as did the minor Right parties like PHONy, the Shooters etc, so I don’t think they’ll be too eager to see the minor, single issue parties getting advanced as the LNP tries to bounce back. You’d think the LNP would believe it has a chance of taking back the Council at the next election, irrespective of what happens in the Assembly. |
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roar
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David wrote: | Strange times when the Greens only get one seat and a party that more or less resembles parodies of the Greens from ~20 years ago manages to get twice as many. |
I think that says something about how people feel about the direction the Greens have taken in the last 10 or so years. _________________ kill for collingwood! |
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David
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It's certainly the case that trying to please too many people pleases no-one. Sadly, though, I think it's more of a testament to the step between having a solid but fairly unthreatening niche as a minor party and gaining mainstream appeal being such a difficult (if not altogether impossible) one in the present system.
I'm happy to take a swing at the Greens where warranted, but I don't think there's anything fundamentally wrong with their policy direction, messaging or party culture. I just suspect they've hit their 8–10% ceiling of dedicated supporters and that people are looking elsewhere for protest / novelty / single-issue votes nowadays. Gone are the days when they had a mortgage on the stoner vote, that's for sure! _________________ All watched over by machines of loving grace |
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Pies4shaw
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The Greens (92,000 first preference votes in the Council) remain the third party, after the ALP (868,000) and the Libs (254,000) in WA. They receive more than double the vote of the Nats (40,000). The loss of seats in the Council is more a by-product of a general swing to the Government than a swing against the Greens. 4 parties lost representation in the Council altogether - Pauline Hanson’s One Nation (-2), the Liberal Democrats (-1), Shooters, Fishers and Farmers (-1) and the Western Australian Party (-1). The Libs and Nats lost 3 seats between them and the Greens lost 3. 3 seats went to minor parties with almost no primary vote as a consequence of the "above the line" voting option. It is fair to say that virtually any of the other parties might have achieved those 3 quotas, or some of them, on a different day - that is, they are preference-counting phenomena, rather than voting trends. |
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Tannin
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Hey, look at it this way: the WA Liberals came in third, behind Labor (61%), and All Others (21%). That's a podium finish, isn't it? _________________ �Let's eat Grandma.� Commas save lives! |
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Pies4shaw
pies4shaw
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David
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Given the much bigger representation in the upper house, I'm kind of surprised that they didn't turn to the Legislative Council for party leadership – I'm sure it would have gone against precedent, but it's not like they don't caucus together so it would kind of make sense to draw on whatever talent they have there. (c.f. the Greens up until recently going with a Senator as party leader even though they had a lower-house MP in Adam Bandt). _________________ All watched over by machines of loving grace |
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stui magpie
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That probably says more about Bandt. _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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David
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Not really, I think it just signalled that they were working with a small pool and couldn't afford to be fussy about who was from which house. Bandt is leader now and seems to be a good fit. (I understand though that, in state and federal politics alike, there would be a distinction between party leadership and formal roles like opposition leader and deputy opposition leader that probably preclude upper-house members from serving.) _________________ All watched over by machines of loving grace |
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Pies4shaw
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roar
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I'd like to see more political parties give themselves an uppercut. _________________ kill for collingwood! |
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Pies4shaw
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^ They're all "wastelands devoid of values" - but they don't all publish reports confirming it. |
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Pies4shaw
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