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BazBoy 



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 8:26 am
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Apart from that finals win Adam Simpson has regularly out coached Bucks
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Apart from that finals win Adam Simpson has regularly out coached Bucks


We should have Goodwin as our next coach then

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 9:45 am
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Why doesn't the same argument apply for Murphy? Why play the Irish rookie instead of the high draft pick? Or both?

I was simply responding to the posters speculating about who gets dropped for Moore to go back to defence. It seems a non-question when the Coach stated publicly last night that Moore will play forward again.


Yes, it was more a rhetorical cry of anguish....I just dont know why we dont give this kid a consistent run ahead of Keane or Mayne
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 8:26 pm
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Ronnie McKeowns boots wrote:
Pies4shaw wrote:
Ronnie McKeowns boots wrote:
Why doesn't the same argument apply for Murphy? Why play the Irish rookie instead of the high draft pick? Or both?

I was simply responding to the posters speculating about who gets dropped for Moore to go back to defence. It seems a non-question when the Coach stated publicly last night that Moore will play forward again.


Yes, it was more a rhetorical cry of anguish....I just dont know why we dont give this kid a consistent run ahead of Keane or Mayne


Probably because he’s hasn’t showed any resemblance of a half deserving man to play in the black and white.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 8:29 pm
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^ Murphy is a much better footballer than either of them.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 8:36 pm
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^ Murphy is a much better footballer than either of them.


Coaches don’t think so atm.
But by all means play the lad but not on merit or draft position.

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Collingwood’s tour of Perth at Optus Stadium began brightly, before significant injuries and decline in consistency saw the Magpies falter against West Coast by 27 points. In the opening term, the Woods got out to an early lead with Brodie Grundy leading the way with two marks up forward resulted in majors, while Darcy Moore was swung forward for the entire match leaving the defence slightly weakened without him. Once Jordan De Goey took a heavy hit to the nose, coupled with Jeremy Howe’s hamstring injury in the second term, the team could not sustain the energy and performance required to win the game, and took a significant nosedive once those two moments occurred. After Howe went out of the game, Moore was kept forward with reliance on inexperienced defender Mark Keane in tandem with Jordan Roughead to hold the fort behind the ball. Both of them could not quell the dominance from Oscar Allen (who I urged Collingwood to draft in 2017 with our first selection before selecting Jaidyn Stephenson) and Jack Darling who dined out on an unrecognisable and smaller defensive unit with Moore not stationed there to take intercept marks. To rub salt into the wound, Collingwood were unable to deny Dom Sheed’s withering burst of 3 goals deep into time-on of the third term that made it incredibly hard for the Magpies to realistically challenge for the win once he kicked the dagger through the heart as he has done numerous times before against Collingwood. Sheed will forever be the greatest villain for that Grand Final goal he converted in 2018, which still gets spoken about to this day. Early in the last quarter, Collingwood had a sneaky chance when they reduced the deficit to 22 points with almost 9 minutes of game time remaining before the Eagles were able to kick clear to snuff it out and prevail comfortably.

Collingwood only won four statistical categories on the night. They were contested possessions by +5 (143 - 138), intercept possessions were won by +3 (68 - 65), while hit-outs had a margin of +1 ( 29 - 28 ), and +8 for Inside 50s (50 - 42). West Coast flexed their muscles winning the remaining statistical categories such as disposals by +75 (414 - 339), kicks were won by +74 (268 - 194), +1 for handballs (146 - 145), and uncontested possessions had a differential of +70 (274 - 204). Clearances had a margin of +8 (39 - 31), of which centre clearances were won by +2 (15 - 13), while stoppage clearances were +6 ( 24 - 18 ). Uncontested marks were won by +50 (123 - 73), with a differential of +5 for Contested Marks ( 13 - 8 ), while tackles had an advantage of +15 (51 - 36), and Tackles Inside 50 were won by +3 (6 - 3). Marks Inside 50 (11 apiece) was the only category in dispute.

Jack Crisp (32 disposals @ 62%, 541 metres gained, 9 contested possessions, 23 uncontested possessions, 7 intercept possessions, 21 kicks, 11 handballs, 7 marks, 5 tackles, 1 goal assist, 11 score involvements, 2 clearances, 2 centre clearances, 4 Inside 50s & 3 Rebound 50s) continues to win the ball at will, but his ball use has been deplorable and inexplicable, especially in his last two matches including this game.

Scott Pendlebury (24 disposals @ 88%, 373 metres gained, 10 contested possessions, 14 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 11 kicks, 13 handballs, 4 marks, 2 tackles, 3 goal assists, 7 score involvements, 5 clearances, 4 centre clearances & 5 Inside 50s) created scoring opportunities and won enough of the ball to use it effectively.

Steele Sidebottom (22 disposals @ 77%, 248 metres gained, 11 contested possessions, 11 uncontested possessions, 5 intercept possessions, 10 kicks, 12 handballs, 3 marks, 3 tackles, 1 goal assist, 6 score involvements, 4 clearances, 3 stoppage clearances & 5 Inside 50s) had a reasonable night without dominating. Improved his ball use from his previous game to give his team a chance of scoring some goals.

Brodie Grundy (20 disposals @ 70%, 184 metres gained, 15 contested possessions, 5 uncontested possessions, 5 intercept possessions, 25 hit-outs, 11 kicks, 9 handballs, 3 marks, 2 Contested Marks, 2 Marks Inside 50, 7 tackles, 4 score involvements, 2 clearances & 2 goals) started like a house on fire in the first quarter, before his influence diminished after that, yet he competed extremely well and won his battle against Nic Naitanui in a losing cause which was very unfortunate.

Chris Mayne (19 disposals @ 100%, 195 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 15 uncontested possessions, 4 intercept possessions, 10 kicks, 9 handballs, 4 marks & 7 score involvements) had a solid game where he used the ball well and contributed to scoring chains, which he usually does not do very often.

Levi Greenwood (19 disposals @ 74%, 282 metres gained, 5 contested possessions, 14 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 13 kicks, 6 handballs, 2 marks, 5 tackles, 3 score involvements, 2 Inside 50s & 2 Rebound 50s) relished more game time, and had a crack with his intent to tackle and gather the ball from stoppages.

Finlay Macrae (18 disposals @ 61%, 242 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 14 uncontested possessions, 9 kicks, 9 handballs, 4 marks, 4 score involvements, 3 clearances, 3 stoppage clearances & 4 Inside 50s) displayed promising signs on debut as he emerges as part of the next wave of midfielders the Magpies have coming through the ranks.

Brayden Maynard (27 disposals @ 85%, 428 metres gained, 11 contested possessions, 16 uncontested possessions, 11 intercept possessions, 15 kicks, 12 handballs, 4 marks, 3 score involvements, 2 Inside 50s & 4 Rebound 50s) managed to win a lot of possessions, but he was having to battle Jack Darling (a battle that Maynard won against him 2 years ago), who cashed in on Maynard’s lack of height after Jeremy Howe had injured his hamstring which made Maynard’s task much more difficult.

Beau McCreery (11 disposals @ 54%, 239 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 7 uncontested possessions, 7 kicks, 4 handballs, 4 marks, 3 tackles, 3 score involvements, 2 Inside 50s & 2 goals) had his best game for the club so far, and will look to build his standards in the coming weeks.

Brody Mihocek (11 disposals @ 36%, 290 metres gained, 9 contested possessions, 2 uncontested possessions, 10 kicks, 4 marks, 2 Contested Marks, 2 tackles, 8 score involvements, 3 Inside 50s & 2 goals) disappointed me with his wasteful conversion in front of the sticks which let the team down. Late in the third term after kicking a behind to reduce the deficit to 23 points instead of 18 points, Dom Sheed kicked the next three goals in no time to extend the lead for the Eagles by 41 points. Ensure you own responsibility for those behinds, Brody, so that the team does not risk a four-goal deficit becoming seven majors like it did in Perth!

Darcy Moore (9 disposals @ 78%, 268 metres gained, 2 contested possessions, 7 uncontested possessions, 9 kicks, 8 marks, 2 Contested Marks, 4 Marks Inside 50, 1 goal assist, 6 score involvements, 3 Inside 50s & 3 goals) started well outside his normal habitat, couldn’t get near it in the next two quarters where the game was lost, before finishing with a flurry of consolation goals to provide a respectable finish to a dismal loss.

Collingwood’s next game will be against Essendon on April 25 (Anzac Day) at the MCG. Time to find winning form now without desired personnel available for selection and produce a brand of footy that is sustainable over four quarters against the Bombers who are equally depleted. Hopefully, there will be full capacity announcements for venues such as the MCG and Marvel Stadium here in Victoria, that would make the entire state smile in the event that it does occur before the weekend.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 1:43 pm
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Like what I saw from McRae he looks like a great pick up. I legit see nothing in Darcy Cameron think he's a full step behind the whole game. Struggles to get to contests. Would play Cox over him 10/10
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Rd10.1998_11.1#36 wrote:
The Boy Who Cried Wolf wrote:
'The best laid plans' usually fall apart on contact, it's one of Buckley's biggest tactical flaws.. and it's never changed.


The quote is something like "No plan survives contact with the enemy" by a guy who died over 200 years ago


What did daffy get something wrong??
Couldn’t be
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:43 am
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Great review JC Hartley!!

Chris Mayne, 19 disposals @ 100% Shocked

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His season average is 18 with 183 metres gained and 13 of his 18 are uncontested, so he mostly gets the ball from someone else and doesn't move it far.
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scoobydoo wrote:
Rd10.1998_11.1#36 wrote:
The Boy Who Cried Wolf wrote:
'The best laid plans' usually fall apart on contact, it's one of Buckley's biggest tactical flaws.. and it's never changed.


The quote is something like "No plan survives contact with the enemy" by a guy who died over 200 years ago


What did daffy get something wrong??
Couldn’t be


What like publicly stating Buckley being a dud coach in 2013?? How wrong was that?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 8:42 am
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simon tonna wrote:
Pies4shaw wrote:
^ Murphy is a much better footballer than either of them.


Coaches don’t think so atm.
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Usually that would mean something, but 5 games in the team that finished 6th last season is now 16th. My faith is gone, play Murphy!

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think positive wrote:
simon tonna wrote:
Pies4shaw wrote:
^ Murphy is a much better footballer than either of them.


Coaches don’t think so atm.
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Usually that would mean something, but 5 games in the team that finished 6th last season is now 16th. My faith is gone, play Murphy!


I expect to see the name "Murphy" listed under "ins" tonight. Or else...

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