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Wokko 
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| That's because there's not many Sudanese here, the ones who are are 10 times more likely to commit violent crime than the average Australian. |
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watt price tully 
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^ That’s why we need a sense of proportion about this. As bad as the crimes are (and they are bad) most violent crime is committed by non-Sudanese
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Pies4shaw 
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| watt price tully wrote: | | ^ That’s why we need a sense of proportion about this. As bad as the crimes are (and they are bad) [almost all] violent crime is committed by non-Sudanese |
Fixed. |
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Jezza 
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| watt price tully wrote: | | ^ That’s why we need a sense of proportion about this. As bad as the crimes are (and they are bad) most violent crime is committed by non-Sudanese |
No one denies this.
It's a fact that people of Sudanese or South-Sudanese heritage are over-represented in crime statistics.
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Pies4shaw
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| As every recent immigrant community has been since time began. |
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watt price tully
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| Jezza wrote: | | watt price tully wrote: | | ^ That’s why we need a sense of proportion about this. As bad as the crimes are (and they are bad) most violent crime is committed by non-Sudanese |
No one denies this.
It's a fact that people of Sudanese or South-Sudanese heritage are over-represented in crime statistics. |
It’s not to do with denial in my view but perspective and proportion. When the Murdoch press amongst others amplify, dramatise & sensationalise then perspective, context and a sense of proportion is easily lost / drowned out.
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roar
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| Pies4shaw wrote: | | As every recent immigrant community has been since time began. |
Just in case anybody missed this the first time.
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Wokko
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| Have they all been over represented? Maybe. I doubt it. Have they been over represented by a factor of 10? No. |
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think positive 
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actually i dont remember in my lifetime stories of gangs of 14 year old kids rampaging through shopping centres with knives and other weapons, terrifying customers. these kids have no fear, no deterrent
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Wokko
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My one concession to the anti gun crowd and reason the 2nd amendment might be needed in the USA but not here if I was playing devils advocate was that we didn't have to deal with home invasions or car jackings here.
Yeah, about that... |
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roar
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^^ But wouldn't it be worse if the gangs had guns?
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Wokko
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| roar wrote: | | ^^ But wouldn't it be worse if the gangs had guns? |
They already do, criminals don't follow laws.
Still, that's a discussion for another thread, I didn't mean to derail this one  |
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stui magpie 
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The gangs of Melbourne.
| Quote: | GANGS OF MELBOURNE
HP (Hampton Park) Boys
Has been expanding over the past year amassing up to 200 members, mostly Pacific Islander youths. A well-known hip hop also group goes by the same name, but the link between the two is unknown.
(NGS) also known as “710”
A rival gang to the HP Boys, made up of predominantly African youths. Rife within Melbourne’s southeast, with many posting photos of themselves armed with weapons and footage of wild brawls in suburbs within Casey and Greater Dandenong
Eastside Drillers (ESD)
Predominantly African youths. Consists of members mostly from Melbourne’s southeast, with some members known to also live in Melbourne’s outereast.
Westside
Members from Melton, Tarneit and surrounding suburbs
Young Reckless Drillaz (YRD)
Frequently use Instagram stories to lure new gang members and appear to recruit youths from all parts of Melbourne
STG
Consists of African youths predominantly from areas in Melbourne’s northwest including Deer Park, St Albans and Sunshine.
Oakleigh W0gs
Popular in the 90s, this gang has re-emerged, with several youth members taking part in a vicious brawl in Eaton Mall last year.
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Islander youths from Melbourne’s west who post videos on social media about fights and rapping. Known to clash with other Islander youths from Melbourne’s southeast. |
Taken from the article linked below which includes interviews with some ex gang members.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/inside-the-youth-gangs-running-wild-on-the-streets-of-melbourne/news-story/57ed6c1a54cd41e79b8d524e557866bd
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What'sinaname
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Sudanese car jackers nabbed in Collingwood!!!
Go PIES!!!!!
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