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qldmagpie67
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Both different players and both absolute champions
Crisp has likely been the best trade I can remember in AFL history (considering we received the draft pick we then used on JDG)
Both play vastly different games so comparing them is hard
JDG is a pure match winner and brilliant
Crisp is a hard working 2 way runner who’s skills have improved dramatically
His durability is unbelievable considering his workload
I’m so glad they both wear the black and white |
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Mossi 
Joined: 20 May 2002
Location: Vittorio Veneto TV Italy
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| RudeBoy wrote: | | I dislike comparing players. They are both fabulous players and we are lucky to have them both. |
I'm with you Rudeboy, that flag would't be ours without the year contribution from both no one excluded |
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LaurieHolden 
Floreat Gymnorhina tyrannica
Joined: 22 Feb 2009
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Comparisons are always difficult. One came from a draft, one from a trade. To get any player past 100 games from either has been a feat in itself.
Don't really see it as a debate, but a tribute to how both players have carved out their careers to date.
In horse racing parlance, I see JDG as a Group 1 sprinter and Crisp as a Group 1 stayer.
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eddiesmith 
Lets get ready to Rumble
Joined: 23 Nov 2004
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| It’s funny you go back 18 months and many Collingwood ‘supporters’ on this very site wanted to get rid of JDG… |
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lazzadesilva 
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
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Name ‘em Eddie dude! They thought they were right at the time obviously. I’m more interested in what they based on rather than anything else.
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eddiesmith
Lets get ready to Rumble
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| It was the Bali controversy and they decided he wasn’t worth the effort and had convicted him before any evidence. Probably the same people who convicted him for the New York incident as well. |
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WhyPhilWhy?
WhyPhilWhy?
Joined: 09 Oct 2001
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| eddiesmith wrote: | | It’s funny you go back 18 months and many Collingwood ‘supporters’ on this very site wanted to get rid of JDG… |
Yep, and with some justification at the time.
He kept putting himself in risky situations and showed the Club no obvious understanding of the issue.
If you review the recent interview, he will pretty much confirm that himself. |
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piedys
Heeeeeeere's Dyso!!!
Joined: 04 Sep 2003
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| RudeBoy wrote: | | They are both fabulous players and we are lucky to have them both. |
And save for Beams deciding to move to Brisbane late 2014, we never would have got either of them.
Sliding doors moment, to go down in history....
Thanks Bears; the architects of their own demise. Bless them.
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K
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^ But then he decided to move back...
Sheesh, Eddie was out of control last few years as pres. |
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lazzadesilva
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
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Nah it was not about Eddie but about how some fans like me wanted him back at the club. Unlike all the self proclaimed futuristic experts here who thought that it was a terrible idea, I was excited at having him back at the club but with his former abilities and form, not what he ended up being.
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piffdog
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Great topic for a rainy day pub discussion (like today...). Different types of players, more so in personality perhaps than output - although I dont know either of them personally so there's that caveat.
Jordy 54 career brownlow votes, and nothign of note in any Copeland voting. Crisp only 34 brownlow votes but 2 B&Fs.
I know many will pot the brownlow as a measurement (thats fine), but maybe Jordy catches the attention more, but Crisp is more consstent? The horse racing analogy works well.
The most obvious difference is continuity. If Jordy could put together a 21-22 game season, I think he would likely be int he running for more awards.
As others have said - you need both of these types of players.
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K
Joined: 09 Sep 2011
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| lazzadesilva wrote: | | Nah it was not about Eddie but about how some fans like me wanted him back at the club. Unlike all the self proclaimed futuristic experts here who thought that it was a terrible idea, I was excited at having him back at the club but with his former abilities and form, not what he ended up being. |
In the thread at the time, a lotta folks here wanted the Pies to walk away when the cost of the trade became clear. |
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