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uncanny
Joined: 04 Mar 2014 Location: Castlemaine
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Charlie Oneeye ...
I expect in all likelihood this was not your intention, but you do the memory of Darren Millane a great disservice by posting stuff about his father that you acknowledge that you are not sure whether is true or not. Even if it is true, there is no need to include it here.
Then you got his number wrong.
Surely you would know it is 42.
And please don't cast this decision solely with Darren's mother. With the greatest respect, I suggest that this is up to her and her family to decide what they wish to happen, however long this might take.
Yes "life goes on" as will Darren's memory at the club; long after you, I and the rest of us have passed on. So the issue of a retired 42 will outlive us all if it is left as it is.
The black ...
The selfish terrible dumb ... decision Darren made. This tragic consequence thankfully didn't involve other people being hurt or worse. It's all there for us to see back then and to this day. Many of us will remember that he and some team mates on the channel 10 news sports desk with Eddy on the Monday after the 90 gf win. Still on a bender that went on too long. Leigh Matthews and co would have hated this. Just one example of the binge drinking culture that was prevalent at all clubs back then, not just ours. So it's not just about Darren here. Many other players of varying stripes made the same decision that he did and got away with it, to a greater or lesser degree.
This led to 42 being retired
The white...
The brilliant person Darren was and what he did for our club.
We would not have held the cup in 90 without him. Sitting in the doldrums thereafter that decade probably doesn't happen if he was still in the team, exerting his influence both on and off the field. He wasn't given a spot in the team of the century lightly.
The "do better" report to address systemic racism at the club has amongst other things brought Leon Davis and Andrew Krakouer back to the fold from their estrangement to work for a more inclusive safer, wholesome culture. Could we and should we do the same sort of thing to address the issue of binge culture? Alcohol? Other drugs? Could we go through a respectful process of something along the lines of ...Look at what happened here with Darren. Other players. Why and how could and did this happen? Could it have been prevented? How can we make sure that we are doing our best to make sure that it never happens again?
If this is done well, with the blessing of Darren Millane's family, we bring his number 42 back, perhaps to the best draftee each year, to honour his memory but just as importantly, to move on from black to white here...
I hope that happens one day, sooner rather than later. _________________ woodsmen rule |
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Charlie Oneeye
charlie oneeye
Joined: 23 Apr 2004
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1. The suicide mentioned by Darrens brother in a newspaper article. Specifically stating his father was unable to cope with Darrens death.
2. EM made a statement that he promised Darrens mother he would retire the number, and would not consider bringing it back while she was still alive. Along those lines.
I have quoted information which has been made public by our Club President and the family.
For those wishing to reinstate the number, I think it would be helpful to know. |
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David
I dare you to try
Joined: 27 Jul 2003 Location: Andromeda
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stui magpie
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
Joined: 03 May 2005 Location: In flagrante delicto
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Thanks David, that was a nice read. _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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Skids
Quitting drinking will be one of the best choices you make in your life.
Joined: 11 Sep 2007 Location: Joined 3/6/02 . Member #175
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The captain should wear 42. _________________ Don't count the days, make the days count. |
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skaman
One step beyond.......
Joined: 01 Mar 2005 Location: Townsville via Melbourne
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Darren Millane.. The Collingwood Footballer, warrior , future captain ( IMO), legacy is honoured by the retirement of his number. Forget outside occurances, influence’s, deeds. Many a champion from any club has a dark outside life, believe me. His (Pants), legacy solely should be judge by his deeds and heroics of those lucky enough to have seen him in action.
This makes me vomit, but to see Jim Odea of Stkilda get awarded by being named in StKildas team of the Century after what he did to an out and out Superstar in our John Greening, shows that , honours bestowed to the footy field are just that ( maybe not a great analogy, as Odeas “crime” occurred on the footy field), same as Leigh Mathews against Neville Bruns. But these players still get bestowed honours.
Pants was an out and out Champion. Lion hearted, raging bull. He was a larakin and made mistakes off field, granted. Ill say it once or a thousand times.. i dont care. His memory is still very fresh in alot of diehard Pie fans. We count. His memory counts. The promise to his mother counts. His number is not a lowly sort out one. #42 IS Pants. Its a Millane decision currently. Should not even be a discussion point for at least a generation.
RIP Pants _________________ Enjoy yourself. Its later than you think! |
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RudeBoy
Joined: 28 Nov 2005
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Well said Robbie. |
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PyreneesPie
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skaman wrote: |
Pants was an out and out Champion. Lion hearted, raging bull. He was a larakin and made mistakes off field, granted. Ill say it once or a thousand times.. i dont care. His memory is still very fresh in alot of diehard Pie fans. We count. His memory counts. The promise to his mother counts. His number is not a lowly sort out one. #42 IS Pants. Its a Millane decision currently. Should not even be a discussion point for at least a generation.
RIP Pants |
This is all absolutely spot on from my point of view. |
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Damien
Me Noah & Flynn @ the G
Joined: 21 Jan 1999 Location: Croydon Vic
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I know Ed promised the Millane family that the number would be retired forever, but why don’t we flip it over and give it the honour it deserves. With Nick now claiming #35 permanently let’s give #42 to our No. 1 pick each year. this would be the best way to honour it. Give the great Darren Millane a living legacy. Not a dying one. It’s time. _________________ 'Collingwood are the Bradmans of Football'
The Herald - 1930 |
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makri
Joined: 29 Oct 2005 Location: Clifton Hill
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woodys_world69
Joined: 04 Jul 2005 Location: Brisbane
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AFL footy is hard enough as it is in your first year without giving a kid a cherished footballers number. |
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Monco Matt
Do it to THEM before THEY do it to YOU
Joined: 28 Apr 2009 Location: Sittin, Drinkin, Reloadin & Waitin
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Personally I'd love to see the #42 out on the field again, but also feel it would need to go to a certain type of player. For example, if Bruz had the 42 that would be a perfect fit. I do hope one day soon that the family give permission as I understand the emotion. But, also, it has been 32 years now and at some point everything should move on. Hmmm, 32 years rings a bell, I believe Darren broke a drought of some type after 32 years. The timing feels right for me. _________________ RED "BABY" CAVANAUGH: Didn't hear what the bet was.
MONCO: Your life. |
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stoliboy
Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Location: Sydney, NSW
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Duff Soviet Union
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Just let it go. _________________ "We ain't gotta dream no more" |
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LaurieHolden
Floreat Gymnorhina tyrannica
Joined: 22 Feb 2009 Location: Victoria Park
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If there were two jumpers I'd have retired in perpetual memoriam they'd be Alan Cordner and Darren Millane.
Both listed players at the time who lost their lives in tragic circumstances.
Cordner would be more difficult as he played under 2 numbers, common for the era, but last played under #4. He was the first Collingwood player to die while in active service. It'd be a fitting legacy for our players that have served or paid the greatest sacrifice.
I'd like to see the no.4 guernsey presented to our player that wins the ANZAC Day medal.
†25 April 1915 (aged 24) Place of death near Cape Helles, Gallipoli, Ottoman Turkey.
Legacies in memoriam are exactly that and shouldn't be tampered with, particularly in light of the circumstances. _________________ "The Club's not Jock, Ted and Gerry" (& Eddie)
2023 AFL Premiers
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