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David 
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My feeling too, re: the post directly above. And yeah, I don't see how a 5-man bench doesn't just take us back to square one. I don't like McRae's idea of sides being able to activate subs simultaneously either, though – I'll quote what I wrote when this first came up back in April:
| David wrote: | While I was always opposed to its previous incarnation, I don't mind the injury sub rule for at least two reasons: first, by making the sub a 23rd rather than 22nd man, it increases opportunities for players rather than decreasing them (as the previous sub rule did); and, secondly, it responds to some clear needs, i.e. the significant disadvantage faced by teams that lose an interchange rotation in the modern game and increased awareness about the need to exercise greater caution regarding player injuries (particularly concussion) [...]
If a team can choose to replace a non-injured player with a substitute once the opposition has activated their sub, then the chances of a sub being used at some point of the match increases significantly (doubled, to be precise!), and you'll see a lot more tactical use of it, with fringe players being given half-games and players with specific roles being used as substitutes. Basically, it will mean the old rule – which I and I'm sure many others, including players, were glad to see the back of – returning by stealth. Talk about unintended consequences!
If you're not annoyed by this way of thinking and how it's manifested in actual rule changes over the past two decades, then you must have a much more generous view of the AFL and media talking heads than I do. Because my view, like that of many fans, has been pretty consistent on this: stop trying to fix stuff that isn't a problem. |
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Pies2016
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To be fair, a lot of conversation about this rule change came from the need to protect possible concussion candidates from the pressure of having to return on the field.
As with most rule changes, it was quickly open for abuse and now we find ourselves having to modify a rule that was introduced on the back of H and S protocols.
The other option is to leave it as it currently stands and any time a player is removed from the game for whatever reason, they automatically miss the following week at any level of competition. What does annoy me about the rule, is that once you are named injury sub, you are credited with a game to your name, whether you got on the park or not. |
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robevpau1 
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| AFL has told clubs tonight that the medical substitute is out. Will be replaced by the tactical substitute - four on the bench and then a sub to be used at any time for any reason. AFL Commission set to approve change in December. AFL. |
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BazBoy
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It only needs ratification and will be in 2023
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BazBoy
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Can be used any time for any reason
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Presti35 
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So the same thing then.
Is it a matter of time before it becomes 2 subs?
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What'sinaname
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So it brings back the inequity for a team who loses a player through injury. 2024, re-introduction of a medi-sub
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David
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Ridiculous, but par for the course for the AFL. You can go around in circles so long as things keep changing.
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burnsy17
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The sub rule, medical or otherwise, has always been shite.
Just increase the bloody bench to 6 and be done with it.
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Presti35
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| burnsy17 wrote: | | Just increase the bloody bench to 6 and be done with it. |
This.
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piedys 
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totally; but would/should the number of interchanges allowed during a game still apply?
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BazBoy
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Can someone explain how this operates please
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piffdog
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I think we are just back to a green vest where you can replace someone whenever you want. So you really have 4 interchange and a sub.
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BazBoy
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The four interchange can enter the play & return several times
So one player comes off completely for the sub to become included
Is that it. Thanks
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Pies2016
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The nominated extra player is now called the “ tactical substitute “
He can come on any time into the game and replace any one of the other 22 players. Once the 23rd player is introduced into the game, then one of the original 22 players is also simultaneously removed from the game. You no longer need to activate the sub for an injury only. You can now activate the sub anytime for tactical purposes also.
I also believe both the 23rd player and the player subbed out are able to play in the VFL on the same weekend and that decision is made at the discretion of the club. ( happy to be corrected if others know better ) |
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