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thompsoc
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| swoop42 wrote: | So out of the Beams deal we landed de Goey at pick 5 who has all the traits to be a future star, Greenwood who finished second in Norths B&F last season and now Crisp who has finished 3rd in ours.
Throw in Treloar who placed 2nd with GWS this year and things are looking up. |
Yep, the Pies are going to win the next 5 flags, we are that good.
Beams and Heater best for their teams this year.
We gain a lot but also lost a lot.
I like Crisp but his disposal is second rate.
I like his size but we will wait and see.
I find it frustrating how people talk up the side when
we have slid backwards.
When we start sliding forward then I will start getting excited.
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MagpieMad 
One in, All in!!
Joined: 15 Jan 2001
Location: -37.798563,144.996641
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| thompsoc wrote: | | swoop42 wrote: | So out of the Beams deal we landed de Goey at pick 5 who has all the traits to be a future star, Greenwood who finished second in Norths B&F last season and now Crisp who has finished 3rd in ours.
Throw in Treloar who placed 2nd with GWS this year and things are looking up. |
Yep, the Pies are going to win the next 5 flags, we are that good.
Beams and Heater best for their teams this year.
We gain a lot but also lost a lot.
I like Crisp but his disposal is second rate.
I like his size but we will wait and see.
I find it frustrating how people talk up the side when
we have slid backwards.
When we start sliding forward then I will start getting excited. |
nah, you won't, you'll find something to bitch about....
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mudlark
Joined: 19 Mar 2002
Location: Maroochydore Qld
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| thompsoc wrote: | | swoop42 wrote: | So out of the Beams deal we landed de Goey at pick 5 who has all the traits to be a future star, Greenwood who finished second in Norths B&F last season and now Crisp who has finished 3rd in ours.
Throw in Treloar who placed 2nd with GWS this year and things are looking up. |
Yep, the Pies are going to win the next 5 flags, we are that good.
Beams and Heater best for their teams this year.
We gain a lot but also lost a lot.
I like Crisp but his disposal is second rate.
I like his size but we will wait and see.
I find it frustrating how people talk up the side when
we have slid backwards.
When we start sliding forward then I will start getting excited. |
So let me be clear here. You are the self proclaimed ""'NON denigrator"??? Serious?? |
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Bucks2014
Joined: 15 Feb 2014
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| thompsoc wrote: | | swoop42 wrote: | So out of the Beams deal we landed de Goey at pick 5 who has all the traits to be a future star, Greenwood who finished second in Norths B&F last season and now Crisp who has finished 3rd in ours.
Throw in Treloar who placed 2nd with GWS this year and things are looking up. |
Yep, the Pies are going to win the next 5 flags, we are that good.
Beams and Heater best for their teams this year.
We gain a lot but also lost a lot.
I like Crisp but his disposal is second rate.
I like his size but we will wait and see.
I find it frustrating how people talk up the side when
we have slid backwards.
When we start sliding forward then I will start getting excited. |
Why are you so negative? You seem to only like the blokes we've let go. Crisps disposal is far from second rate, he is an absolute ripper. One of my favourites, but Pendles will always win out.
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thompsoc
Joined: 21 Sep 2009
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i like the whinging about the whingers.
Makes a little contradiction.
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thompsoc
Joined: 21 Sep 2009
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| Bucks2014 wrote: | | thompsoc wrote: | | swoop42 wrote: | So out of the Beams deal we landed de Goey at pick 5 who has all the traits to be a future star, Greenwood who finished second in Norths B&F last season and now Crisp who has finished 3rd in ours.
Throw in Treloar who placed 2nd with GWS this year and things are looking up. |
Yep, the Pies are going to win the next 5 flags, we are that good.
Beams and Heater best for their teams this year.
We gain a lot but also lost a lot.
I like Crisp but his disposal is second rate.
I like his size but we will wait and see.
I find it frustrating how people talk up the side when
we have slid backwards.
When we start sliding forward then I will start getting excited. |
Why are you so negative? You seem to only like the blokes we've let go. Crisps disposal is far from second rate, he is an absolute ripper. One of my favourites, but Pendles will always win out. |
Averaging under 70% effective disposals and close to 3 clangers a match.
That is not A grade material.
But you know better.
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Albert Parker
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No, Crisp is far from an A-grader, but a more-than-handy pick up out of the Beams transaction
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thompsoc
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| Albert Parker wrote: | | No, Crisp is far from an A-grader, but a more-than-handy pick up out of the Beams transaction |
Absolutely agree.
He has been a great pick up.
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AN_Inkling
Joined: 06 Oct 2007
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| thompsoc wrote: | | Bucks2014 wrote: | | thompsoc wrote: | | swoop42 wrote: | So out of the Beams deal we landed de Goey at pick 5 who has all the traits to be a future star, Greenwood who finished second in Norths B&F last season and now Crisp who has finished 3rd in ours.
Throw in Treloar who placed 2nd with GWS this year and things are looking up. |
Yep, the Pies are going to win the next 5 flags, we are that good.
Beams and Heater best for their teams this year.
We gain a lot but also lost a lot.
I like Crisp but his disposal is second rate.
I like his size but we will wait and see.
I find it frustrating how people talk up the side when
we have slid backwards.
When we start sliding forward then I will start getting excited. |
Why are you so negative? You seem to only like the blokes we've let go. Crisps disposal is far from second rate, he is an absolute ripper. One of my favourites, but Pendles will always win out. |
Averaging under 70% effective disposals and close to 3 clangers a match.
That is not A grade material.
But you know better. |
Sorry, but without proper context, effective disposals is probably the most useless stat in evaluating a player. Did you know that Frost was 4th best in the league this year with 87.3%? Must be an elite kick.
Also, Dangerfield's disposal was at 67% and 3.4 clangers compared to Crisp's 69% and 2.7 clangers. A player's role heavily dictates these numbers and there is no magical kicking efficiency barrier for A grade status. By the eye test I would say that Crisp's kicking was good this season, both finishing for goal well and hitting forward targets.
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AN_Inkling
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I'll add one more.
Nat Fyfe: 69.4% efficiency and 3.8 clangers.
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MagpiesTheGreat
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| A crispy a-grader |
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Joined: 22 Jun 2004
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Rate the lad highly , still only 22 will become a gun! has some mongrel about him which is great. Not quite an A grader yet but give him time!
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inxs88
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An A grader is a player whose:
* in your best 5 players
* has no discernible weaknesses
* does it 3-4 years consecutively
* threatens All Australian selection
* is often tagged or a nightmare for opposition analyst
* is elite in kicking, pace, defensive areas and skills
So is Jack Crisp an A grader yet? No. Lets review in 2018
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mackasmatt
Joined: 19 Dec 2007
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Rare for a player of 'elite' caliber to slip through to the Rookie Draft. Guess Rockliff did and Dahlhaus is on his way.
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Mugwump
Joined: 28 Jul 2007
Location: Between London and Melbourne
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| inxs88 wrote: | An A grader is a player whose:
* in your best 5 players
* has no discernible weaknesses
* does it 3-4 years consecutively
* threatens All Australian selection
* is often tagged or a nightmare for opposition analyst
* is elite in kicking, pace, defensive areas and skills
So is Jack Crisp an A grader yet? No. Lets review in 2018 |
Yep, nailed it nicely there.
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