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inxs88
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| stui magpie wrote: | | inxs88 wrote: | | The Average Tourist wrote: | We have two upgrades being Checkers and Noble which I think can be used on our last two picks.
So I expect and unlike many know nothing but your would think there will be 6 changes so we have identified 3 so three more to go
Which given we have
Varcoe
Dunn
Reid
Crocker
Broomie
Lynch
Apples
The last 4 are all due with the last 3 all rookies (like Murray) and effectively do not open a place on the list
My understanding is that we need a minimum of 3 full list selections but if Checkers & Noble that would leave 1 selection.
But maybe Noble can be rookied
Anyone with full understanding of this? |
Mihocek's needs upgrading but Noble is a full fledged Senior listed player. |
Not according to the club website https://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/pies-teams/afl/rookies |
Might sound odd but I back the team at Footywire ahead of our own website team every day of the week:
https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/tp-collingwood-magpies
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| Dark Beanie wrote: | | slangman wrote: | Sier is gone.
From what I’ve heard, he “checked out” mid year.
Personality clash with someone who’s not
About to leave anytime soon. |
The club persisted with him in the hope that he would decide that footy was his priority.
If it isn't, fair enough. See you later 'Phil Inn' and bring in someone who wants to do the hard yards. |
agree, his attitude has never been right. (with regards to Sier)
To be honest and i hate to say it because he is a great player and he has done such hard work. But if we want to free cap space and get back into the early part of the Draft Jamie Elliott is the player we can cover on field (Stephenson, DeGoey and W.H.E) all play that type of role.
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stui magpie 
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maybe, but it is the mid season rookie draft and he was picked up as a rookie.
| Quote: | | The Pies have created a place for Noble on their rookie list by placing veteran defender Lynden Dunn (knee) on their inactive list, while Daniel Wells has moved to the long-term injury list after injuring his knee in the win over the Sydney Swans on Friday night. |
https://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/news/2019-05-27/pies-make-noble-choice
Now, we may have done some fancy footwork and dropped Magden back and elevated Noble, but we'd still need to do a contract and paperwork to move him to our primary list permanently for next season.
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SteveH67
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I'd keep Jamie Elliott and trade WHE.
He has been too inconsistent in his performances since arriving from the Giants.
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SteveH67
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I'd keep Jamie Elliott and trade WHE.
He has been too inconsistent in his performances since arriving from the Giants.
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gobbles21 
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| derkd wrote: |
if we want to free cap space and get back into the early part of the Draft Jamie Elliott is the player we can cover on field (Stephenson, DeGoey and W.H.E) all play that type of role. |
Elliot is an unrestricted free agent. If he leaves he leaves. There is no trading him or “getting into the early part of the draft” by letting him go. |
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RudeBoy
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| gobbles21 wrote: | | derkd wrote: |
if we want to free cap space and get back into the early part of the Draft Jamie Elliott is the player we can cover on field (Stephenson, DeGoey and W.H.E) all play that type of role. |
Elliot is an unrestricted free agent. If he leaves he leaves. There is no trading him or “getting into the early part of the draft” by letting him go. |
Except, we would get a draft pick from the AFL as compensation, determined by the size of the contract he accepts. So, it could well get us an early draft pick. |
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gobbles21
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| RudeBoy wrote: | | gobbles21 wrote: | | derkd wrote: |
if we want to free cap space and get back into the early part of the Draft Jamie Elliott is the player we can cover on field (Stephenson, DeGoey and W.H.E) all play that type of role. |
Elliot is an unrestricted free agent. If he leaves he leaves. There is no trading him or “getting into the early part of the draft” by letting him go. |
Except, we would get a draft pick from the AFL as compensation, determined by the size of the contract he accepts. So, it could well get us an early draft pick. |
Considering he’d likely get between $5-600k for no more than 3 years, that would be an end of second round pick (after our current 2nd round currently pick 34) - Harldy the “early part of the draft”
The contract would need to be close to the $900-k-$1m mark over at least 4 years to command a first round selection. Let’s not forget it would also disappear entirely if we were to then sign any free agent. |
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RudeBoy
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| Thanks for that info gobbles. I had no idea how it works. In that case, we should definitely go all out to keep him. |
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Not quite on topic, but...
The draft is Wed. Nov. 27 & Thu. Nov 28. |
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magpieazza
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If what gobbles said is true then I would change my mind to keeping Elliott instead of trading him.
With the limited info I have on Grundy I heard that Grundy will also become a free agent at end of next year.
Could some one please clarify the Grundy situation ?
So if he is tradeable now and we can get 2 or 3 x high draft picks now instead of just 1x AFL compensation pick next year..... I know what I would be doing.
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inxs88
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| magpieazza wrote: | If what gobbles said is true then I would change my mind to keeping Elliott instead of trading him.
With the limited info I have on Grundy I heard that Grundy will also become a free agent at end of next year.
Could some one please clarify the Grundy situation ?
So if he is tradeable now and we can get 2 or 3 x high draft picks now instead of just 1x AFL compensation pick next year..... I know what I would be doing. |
Yes. Depending on our ladder position next year and IF he took a multi million dollar offer from a SA club in 2021, we would only receive a probable first round pick immediately after our official 1st round pick and post any compensatory picks that land prior to ours.
Also, Dwayne "Sponsors" Russell opined on 3AW tonight that he believed the HAWKS shall secure Elliott. Dwayne (whose contribution to nightly commentary is only spewing out sponsors/advertiser names every 90 seconds, hello:
* Toyota
* KIA
* McDonalds
* KFC
* DeBortoli etc....)
seemed to have that ROBBO "take it to the bank confidence". Hopefully he is as clueless as other "Callers whom fake that they're hard core journos" such as Carey, Maher, Huddo etc..."
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| K wrote: | Not quite on topic, but...
The draft is Wed. Nov. 27 & Thu. Nov 28. |
jeezusfookinchrist what do we do til then??
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inxs88
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So Dougal Howard from Port is the latest rumour from silly season. Apparently a frustrated backman forced to play forward later in the season. Time shall tell on this one but we need key forwards not backs despite Roughead turning 29 soon.
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