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JLC
Joined: 30 May 2000 Location: Keysborough still representing Hot Pies
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When i say thirs rd. I mean our third selection in the draft. Definately not our first pick after the Priority round.
The future will hold the answer and i hope he does turn out to be better than the players selected in the top 10.
jlc _________________ The Torres bounce is officially dead. You are walking alone now Fernando. |
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Carringbush72
Joined: 18 Feb 2005
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Like 99% of kids drafted this bloke still has a long way to go to play AFL but good luck... he sounds like he has all the attributes to make it.
PS I am getting a little sick of the simplistic view of drafting some here have ... ie, saying we took McKee over Pavlich and missed such and such to take Danny Roach. 20-20 hindsight is a wonderful thing! The draft is always a punt... _________________ Now or never |
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Cannibal
Joined: 10 May 2004 Location: Buninyong
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And I'm getting sick of people saying the Danny Roach/Matthew Pavlich issue was a draft stuff-up. It wasn't; it was a trade stuff-up (which is why I cringe every year when trade week arrives and I have to read through all the garbage trades being suggested, all the time hoping we won't do anything stupid). We traded pick 3 in that draft to Richmond for Steve McKee and pick 7 (with which we drafted Danny Roach).
My argument all along has been that we should have held on to pick 3 and taken Pavlich, who was a junior standout, because the top draftees are generally very good footballers and the high picks therefore very valuable ones. Too valuable to be traded away, which is why they are so rarely traded away now.
Draft-wise, 1999 was a pretty good year for us. Josh Fraser, Rhyce Shaw, Leon Davis and Ben Johnson are all still with us. McKee didn't do too badly, but was serviceable at best. He still played 64 games. We also picked up Glenn Freeborn in the PSD and he played 83 games for us.
Add Pavlich, who has played 128 games for Freo since 1999, for McKee and that draft would have been a magnificent one for us.
The club which stuffed up in the draft that year was Richmond. They were the mugs who used pick 3 on Aaron Fiora and passed on Pavlich. _________________ Glory Glory Good Old Collingwood, Glory Glory Hallelujah,
Collingwood's The Greatest Team The World Has Ever Seen,
And The 'Pies Go Marching On (in Black and White Stripes Forever!). |
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Carringbush72
Joined: 18 Feb 2005
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Good points, Cannibal.
I realise McKee wasn't chosen directly ahead of Pavlich etc. and that it was trade blunder. I was just using that one as an example. I was just venting frustration at some who get on here and say we should have had this player and that who turned out to be good because they were available when our picks came up.
If that was the case we should have had Hird, Chris Grant and every other player who was picked low down in the draft.
Anyway, good luck to Scott Pendlebury. Only seen him in one match, know nothing about him, but he must have something. _________________ Now or never |
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Johnson#26
Joined: 18 Dec 2003
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Quote: | We traded pick 3 in that draft to Richmond for Steve McKee and pick 7 (with which we drafted Danny Roach). |
We also traded Clinton King as well as pick three. At that time of the AFL, King was better than McKee. Sure was a trade bungle.
Every club has made mistakes. And who is to say we were going to take Pavlich, anyway? Richmond took Fiora....
Gems come from all over the draft - Goodes at 43 in 1997, Nick Stevens 25 in the same year (we took Wasley a pick prior) and Black in the 30's. After pick 20 is where the real recruiting begins... |
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EddieGold
Joined: 21 Oct 2005
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Johnson#26 wrote: | Quote: | We traded pick 3 in that draft to Richmond for Steve McKee and pick 7 (with which we drafted Danny Roach). |
We also traded Clinton King as well as pick three. At that time of the AFL, King was better than McKee. Sure was a trade bungle.
Every club has made mistakes. And who is to say we were going to take Pavlich, anyway? Richmond took Fiora....
Gems come from all over the draft - Goodes at 43 in 1997, Nick Stevens 25 in the same year (we took Wasley a pick prior) and Black in the 30's. After pick 20 is where the real recruiting begins... |
Cannibal wrote: | And I'm getting sick of people saying the Danny Roach/Matthew Pavlich issue was a draft stuff-up. It wasn't; it was a trade stuff-up (which is why I cringe every year when trade week arrives and I have to read through all the garbage trades being suggested, all the time hoping we won't do anything stupid). We traded pick 3 in that draft to Richmond for Steve McKee and pick 7 (with which we drafted Danny Roach).
My argument all along has been that we should have held on to pick 3 and taken Pavlich, who was a junior standout, because the top draftees are generally very good footballers and the high picks therefore very valuable ones. Too valuable to be traded away, which is why they are so rarely traded away now.
Draft-wise, 1999 was a pretty good year for us. Josh Fraser, Rhyce Shaw, Leon Davis and Ben Johnson are all still with us. McKee didn't do too badly, but was serviceable at best. He still played 64 games. We also picked up Glenn Freeborn in the PSD and he played 83 games for us.
Add Pavlich, who has played 128 games for Freo since 1999, for McKee and that draft would have been a magnificent one for us.
The club which stuffed up in the draft that year was Richmond. They were the mugs who used pick 3 on Aaron Fiora and passed on Pavlich. |
Carringbush72 wrote: | ]Good points, Cannibal.
I realise McKee wasn't chosen directly ahead of Pavlich etc. and that it was trade blunder. I was just using that one as an example. I was just venting frustration at some who get on here and say we should have had this player and that who turned out to be good because they were available when our picks came up.
If that was the case we should have had Hird, Chris Grant and every other player who was picked low down in the draft.
Anyway, good luck to Scott Pendlebury. Only seen him in one match, know nothing about him, but he must have something. |
Mate, McKee shouldn't have gone for anything more than a second rounder. Yet we gleefully gave away a pick in the top 4. Pavlich was a junior Superstar and will now play 300 games. It has cost us two premierships already.
Picking Pavlich - That is not a raffle, that is something that was a no brainer.
The worst decision at the Collingwood footbal club in 50 years except for no one going to the airport when Jason Dunstall flew from Queensland to have a trial with us. |
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Lazza
Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Location: Bendigo, Victoria, Australia
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JLC wrote: | When i say thirs rd. I mean our third selection in the draft. Definately not our first pick after the Priority round.
The future will hold the answer and i hope he does turn out to be better than the players selected in the top 10.
jlc |
For what its worth, I reckon the probability of this bloke being available for us at pick 21 was zilch anyway. The club made an awesome decision. He would have been snapped up betwen 6 - 10. We have got a bloody ripper here, ye of SUCH little faith There are instant champions in a National draft only once in a blue moon. I hate instant anything anyway, I'd much rather enjoy the journey watching them develop into champs at Collingwood, like I once saw with players like Millane and Daicos..... |
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EddieGold
Joined: 21 Oct 2005
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Lazza wrote: | JLC wrote: | When i say thirs rd. I mean our third selection in the draft. Definately not our first pick after the Priority round.
The future will hold the answer and i hope he does turn out to be better than the players selected in the top 10.
jlc |
For what its worth, I reckon the probability of this bloke being available for us at pick 21 was zilch anyway. The club made an awesome decision. He would have been snapped up betwen 6 - 10. We have got a bloody ripper here, ye of SUCH little faith There are instant champions in a National draft only once in a blue moon. I hate instant anything anyway, I'd much rather enjoy the journey watching them develop into champs at Collingwood, like I once saw with players like Millane and Daicos..... |
and Doug Gott. |
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Lazza
Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Location: Bendigo, Victoria, Australia
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EddieGold wrote: | Lazza wrote: | JLC wrote: | When i say thirs rd. I mean our third selection in the draft. Definately not our first pick after the Priority round.
The future will hold the answer and i hope he does turn out to be better than the players selected in the top 10.
jlc |
For what its worth, I reckon the probability of this bloke being available for us at pick 21 was zilch anyway. The club made an awesome decision. He would have been snapped up betwen 6 - 10. We have got a bloody ripper here, ye of SUCH little faith There are instant champions in a National draft only once in a blue moon. I hate instant anything anyway, I'd much rather enjoy the journey watching them develop into champs at Collingwood, like I once saw with players like Millane and Daicos..... |
and Doug Gott. |
Ahh Doug Gott!! Loved the bloke although he wasnt a champion in the true sense!! I STILL blame his unfortunate leg injury for missing out on a win in the 1977 tied grand final. He and Con Britt were superb backman in that era.
He was a sensatioinal cricketer too. |
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EddieGold
Joined: 21 Oct 2005
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Lazza -exactly - the moment Doug Gott went down in 1977 North took control of the game. It is still one of the saddest moments of my life cause the big No 34 was my first favourite player.
Doug Gott is the type of player all teams need not a superstar but binds and holds the team together. He was a very good medium pacer as well and played for Victoria. |
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Johnson#26
Joined: 18 Dec 2003
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[qwuote]Mate, McKee shouldn't have gone for anything more than a second rounder. Yet we gleefully gave away a pick in the top 4. Pavlich was a junior Superstar and will now play 300 games. It has cost us two premierships already.[/quote]
Yes, it was a poor decision - one which may or may not have cost us a flag - who knows? I doubt that one man alone (Pavlich) would have singlehandedly won us the 2003 premiership.
All clubs have terrible decisions in their history - Mark Bolton at number three/four in 1997, Ryan Fitzgerald at number five in 1998....all clubs have shockers for one reason or another. |
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Joel
Joined: 23 Mar 1999 Location: Mornington Peninsula
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JLC wrote: | Lazza wrote: | JLC wrote: | Great he can play basketball with Fanning and be another project player like Walker.
I am a bit sceptical on this selection as i am with Thomas. Not sure why we didnt go with the obvious choices.
jlc |
Do you also post under the nick, Eddie Gold
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Wouldnt you be sceptical after our recent draft history? Danny Roach, Luke Shackleton, Billy Morrison and Bo Nixon to name just a few. All of them came with big wraps but none delivered. I left out Davidson as he had the ability but was cut down by injury.
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Different recruiters in there now. They seem to go alright last year. Hopfeully our picks will turn out this year. |
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jabso#5
Joined: 25 Jun 2000 Location: Melbourne,Victoria, Australia
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All you whingers are saying:
"We should of gone with the obvious choices".
The obvious choices based on what? Like 2 original mock drafts from people who MAY have good knowledge, and 7,257 internet opinions based on misintepreted quotes from these mock drafts and about 800 mock drafts written by people who have seen a handfull of TAC cup games and are mostly based on everyone elses mock draft and opinions.
They didn't call this an even draft for no reason, after Murphy there is a huge blanket over the next 10, even 20 players as to which are clearly the better players. |
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Joined: 18 May 2004 Location: Melbourne
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Did anyone have a look at pendlebury's video on ctv? He lookss fantstic!! I'm excited! _________________ 🖤🤍🖤🤍 |
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jackcass
Joined: 01 Mar 2005 Location: Bendigo
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EddieGold wrote: | Scott Pendlebury is the best player since Andrew Bogut |
You are a tosser! |
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