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Museman 



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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2015 5:56 pm
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John Wren wrote:
Museman wrote:
Darkstranger wrote:
You know considering where we are in the stage of our development, happy to hold back the gun kids to really develop their game and hunger... Don't want to give away the season but don't want to over play it either..

Moore
Kennedy
Broomhead
Freeman
Scharenberg
Marsh
Degoey
Cox
Ramsay
Give them time.


Yet to accelerate team and game plan development you need these kids playing alongside senior regulars, there is also a point where hunger meets frustration....
Holding back genuine talents does nothing for their development imo.


depends on how you manage the player's expectations. jdg has been here for the proverbial five minutes.


And in that proverbial 5 mins he has earned selection, I would say he'd earned it after 3 mins in fact.
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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2015 5:57 pm
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Dr hamstring will **** him up.


No. Different style of runner.

But chin up mate. Not all is doom and gloom in the world.

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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2015 6:10 pm
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Some kids are ready made senior footballers and thrive on playing with men as rookies. JDG looks like one of these to me. He looks to be a full class above VFL level already and has improved significantly week by week and full credit to him. He looks like he has hunger and ambition and a healthy dose of self confidence without being cocky. He's ready imo.

I'm looking forward to him getting another senior game very soon, likewise Ben Ken with a bit more match fitness. The club just needs to stagger the reintroduction of our young studs in a manner that wont unbalance the side and will facilitate their development which is a challenge in itself for the selectors.
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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2015 7:17 pm
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Flashman wrote:
Some kids are ready made senior footballers and thrive on playing with men as rookies. JDG looks like one of these to me. He looks to be a full class above VFL level already and has improved significantly week by week and full credit to him. He looks like he has hunger and ambition and a healthy dose of self confidence without being cocky. He's ready imo.

I'm looking forward to him getting another senior game very soon, likewise Ben Ken with a bit more match fitness. The club just needs to stagger the reintroduction of our young studs in a manner that wont unbalance the side and will facilitate their development which is a challenge in itself for the selectors.


Spot on Flashman, I reckon JDG would do a lot better at marking contests than White or Blairy, and could easily slot into a forward role where he could begin his AFL career, without the responsibility of the midfield. He obviously does not have the seasoned body of the other two but in that position it isn't a prerequisite.
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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2015 8:02 pm
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We have Richmond, Gold Coast, North, Melb and GWS as our next five.

With the way this and last round have played out you can't honestly predict how they are going to go.

I don't believe in giving a player one week then he's out for 10. Give the players a good 3 or more weeks. I'd say it may take 1 or 2 games to get the hang of it. By game 3 or 4 you should be able to see if they're up to it.

That's not saying whether they will be up to it or not, but just whilst it's their first season it's a very tough ask.

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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2015 9:06 pm
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Brenny wrote:
We have Richmond, Gold Coast, North, Melb and GWS as our next five.

With the way this and last round have played out you can't honestly predict how they are going to go.

I don't believe in giving a player one week then he's out for 10. Give the players a good 3 or more weeks. I'd say it may take 1 or 2 games to get the hang of it. By game 3 or 4 you should be able to see if they're up to it.

That's not saying whether they will be up to it or not, but just whilst it's their first season it's a very tough ask.


That's why I've found the treatment of Kennedy so infuriating. In one week as sub, drop him, in another week as sub, drop him for a few, in one week as starter than another as the sub then drop him again.

I've got a bad feeling we're going to lose him and he's going to be a seriously good player.

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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2015 10:21 pm
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Duff Soviet Union wrote:
Brenny wrote:
We have Richmond, Gold Coast, North, Melb and GWS as our next five.

With the way this and last round have played out you can't honestly predict how they are going to go.

I don't believe in giving a player one week then he's out for 10. Give the players a good 3 or more weeks. I'd say it may take 1 or 2 games to get the hang of it. By game 3 or 4 you should be able to see if they're up to it.

That's not saying whether they will be up to it or not, but just whilst it's their first season it's a very tough ask.


That's why I've found the treatment of Kennedy so infuriating. In one week as sub, drop him, in another week as sub, drop him for a few, in one week as starter than another as the sub then drop him again.

I've got a bad feeling we're going to lose him and he's going to be a seriously good player.

As Dave said, BK re-signed at the end of last year. He can't be too unhappy with his treatment so far. It's pretty well documented that he has had leg issues, which led to fitness issues over the past couple of years, so the corresponding 'treatment' of being in and out, and sub, seems to fit pretty well.

I think you'll find he will get a good run at it this year. His fitness is way better, and it's unlikely that he won't be given a good stretch of games in the seniors once he breaks back in the team.
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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 3:51 pm
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Loved De Goey’s work around Ruck Contests. Just Get’s the Ball and Get Thru Tackles and also the Follow up Efforts been really good
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Dr. Jinx 



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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2015 2:46 am
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Can anyone tell me who No.64 in our VFL side is?
He's got some jets on him and has looked a beauty two weeks in a row
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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2015 6:42 am
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Dr. Jinx wrote:
Can anyone tell me who No.64 in our VFL side is?
He's got some jets on him and has looked a beauty two weeks in a row



Seems to be Jesse Wallin. (Does he look 180cm and 80kg?)
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John Wren Virgo

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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2015 9:11 am
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K wrote:
Dr. Jinx wrote:
Can anyone tell me who No.64 in our VFL side is?
He's got some jets on him and has looked a beauty two weeks in a row



Seems to be Jesse Wallin. (Does he look 180cm and 80kg?)


yep, jesse wallin. ex bendigo gold.

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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2015 3:16 pm
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Waiting for the team sheet.
I would be shocked if he wasn't picked.

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unleash the kid.
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John Wren Virgo

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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2015 8:25 pm
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what did everyone think of de golden one's game today?
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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2015 8:26 pm
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Not bad, pretty good, not bad
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