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watt price tully 
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It doesn't make too much sense that a back pocket / half back flanker is worth a pick 9 in the draft. Someone is over-inflating IMO.
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It doesn't make too much sense that a back pocket / half back flanker is worth a pick 9 in the draft. Someone is over-inflating IMO. |
Scharenberg went pick 6!
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FS and NGA players tend to slip a bit as less work is put into them by other clubs. It will be touch and go whether Q is bid on ahead of our 1st pick. A bit like the Darcy Moore situation in his draft.
If he isnt bid on until after our first rounder then we get a first round choice and get Q pretty cheap with points from our subsequent picks (or worst case if we have insufficient points then those carry over to following year against our pick in the round he was bid on). I suspect we may end up paying for Kelly from points from the following year as a result.
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AN_Inkling
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| watt price tully wrote: |
It doesn't make too much sense that a back pocket / half back flanker is worth a pick 9 in the draft. Someone is over-inflating IMO. |
Ed Richards was picked at 16 and they seem fairly similar players.
A "back pocket" can often play wing and forward as Ed has done this year.
The rankings at this stage can largely be ignored though. They're just one individual's guesses. Just prior to the draft is when club intentions become clearer and the predictions always change dramatically.
Still, it's great that we have a clearly talented player, of a type we really need, coming through. Not having Richards might hurt a little less.
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| E wrote: | | watt price tully wrote: |
It doesn't make too much sense that a back pocket / half back flanker is worth a pick 9 in the draft. Someone is over-inflating IMO. |
Scharenberg went pick 6! |
McGrath went to Essendon at pick 1. |
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Pies2016
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The smart clubs will always pick next best during the first round or two, then they tend to select on a needs basis.
The reasoning is simple. You can always find a spot for a good footballer. |
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Dave The Man
Joined: 01 Apr 2005
Location: Someville, Victoria, Australia
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| AN_Inkling wrote: | | watt price tully wrote: |
It doesn't make too much sense that a back pocket / half back flanker is worth a pick 9 in the draft. Someone is over-inflating IMO. |
Ed Richards was picked at 16 and they seem fairly similar players.
A "back pocket" can often play wing and forward as Ed has done this year.
The rankings at this stage can largely be ignored though. They're just one individual's guesses. Just prior to the draft is when club intentions become clearer and the predictions always change dramatically.
Still, it's great that we have a clearly talented player, of a type we really need, coming through. Not having Richards might hurt a little less. |
Yep long way to go to draft and lot of things still to Happen
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watt price tully
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| BucksIsFutureCoach wrote: | | E wrote: | | watt price tully wrote: |
It doesn't make too much sense that a back pocket / half back flanker is worth a pick 9 in the draft. Someone is over-inflating IMO. |
Scharenberg went pick 6! |
McGrath went to Essendon at pick 1. |
Was McGrath a backpocket in his pre-draft days?
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watt price tully
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| Pies2016 wrote: | The smart clubs will always pick next best during the first round or two, then they tend to select on a needs basis.
The reasoning is simple. You can always find a spot for a good footballer. |
Your reasoning here seems not just simple but spot on.
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| watt price tully wrote: | | BucksIsFutureCoach wrote: | | E wrote: | | watt price tully wrote: |
It doesn't make too much sense that a back pocket / half back flanker is worth a pick 9 in the draft. Someone is over-inflating IMO. |
Scharenberg went pick 6! |
McGrath went to Essendon at pick 1. |
Was McGrath a backpocket in his pre-draft days? |
I watched a bit of him in his Sandy Dragons days and he mostly played off half back and rotated through the middle. Its not that he couldnt play in the guts, he was easily good enough, its just that he was part of a gun midfield group ( Taranto, Florent, Setterfield Scrimshaw, Polson all on club lists )
I reckon the Bombers ruined him in the first half of the season by playing him in the middle. Now that hes back at halfback, he is getting his confidence back. |
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AN_Inkling
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The hope is that he is a first round talent, but is bid on after our first pick. Means we get two first rounders.
Could soften the blow if we end up dropping to the bottom half of the 8 or out of it.
Unfortunately, you'd think if his value was close to our first pick someone would bid just to prevent this scenario.
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Yes, Callum Twomey has just included him (Kelly) in his Top 20. He's been teetering in and out of his list this season. Twomey described him though as a likely pick in the Top 40 though in the draft on Future Champions today, so not calling him out as likely to be first round.
I thought he did well in the final NAB Champs final against Lukosius, who is touted as a Top 2 pick. Played on him for about 3 quarters and he only kicked one clever goal on the run against him. ANd the ball was up forward for SA a fair bit of the time.
Kelly has good mobility and neat skills. Knock on him would be his overhead marking at this stage I expect.
If we finish in the Top 4, Quaynor will be drafted by us late in the first round. I'd be shocked if a sub 6 foot back flanker got picked Top 10. Otherwise this is no super draft as some has touted. I note that Twomey has been watering down expectations that this is a Super draft, despite the fact he works for the AFL. Quaynor is not slow by any stretch but he doesn't have McGrath's speed and athleticism and possibly not his leadership skills either. Nor can he play (undersized) key back like Scharenberg.
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Joined: 06 Sep 2010
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Welcome to the club, Isaac.
| Quote: | Selection No. 13 Isaac Quaynor
Position: Defender
Height: 180cm
Weight: 83kg
Age: 18
Recruited from: Bulleen-Templestowe/ Beverley Hills / Oakleigh U18
Profile
The Collingwood Next Generation Academy prospect can play in defence and in the middle. The versatile Under-18 All-Australian defender can play on both medium and small opponents and is quick and agile. A good decision maker, Quaynor uses the ball effectively by hand and foot. The 18-year-old models his game on Bulldogs speedster Jason Johannisen and Demons defender Neville Jetta, and shapes as a top-20 pick on draft night. Quaynor also surprised himself, winning the goalkicking test at the Draft Combine with a perfect score.
2018 TAC Cup statistics
Club: Oakleigh U18
Games: 13
Average Disposals: 16.3
Average Marks: 3.8
Average Round 50s: 4.1
Average Tackles: 3.2
Did you know?
- Quaynor has supported Collingwood since he was a child, growing up in Melbournes eastern suburbs
- He began playing competitive football at the age of 12
- The 18-year-old played soccer, athletics and basketball as a child
- He was sitting behind the Collingwood Cheer Squad during the 2018 Grand Final against West Coast
What they say
A medium defender who can also move into the midfield and has good speed and agility, which allows him to play on medium and small opponents. A good decision-maker about when to mark or spoil and uses the ball effectively by hand and foot. An excellent performer for Vic Metro in the National Under-18 Championships, winning Under- 18 All-Australian honours. Eligible for Collingwood under the Next Generation Academy Program with his African heritage. Runner-up in the Chargers best-and-fairest, Kevin Sheehan (AFL Talent Ambassador), AFL.com.au, November 2018
Quaynor is powerful, strong half-back who has played on a range of forwards this year and excelled. He's got a mature build that helps him out-body forwards, but he combines that with clean disposal at ground level and an explosiveness out of the defensive 50 (he averaged four rebound-50s for the Chargers) He's also a bubbly, warm personality who is well-liked in all the teams he has been a part of. Quaynor likes to look at how Western Bulldog playmaker Jason Johannisen rebounds from half-back and take on the game in a similar ilk, Cal Twomey (AFL Medias draft expert), AFL.com.au, October-November 2018
Quaynor will take Rising Star winner Jaidyn Stephensons No.35 jumper and burst off the halfback line in it next year. Averaged 419m gain for Vic Metro. Think Jason Johannisen, Sam Landsberger and Jay Clark (Herald Sun journalists), superfooty.com.au, November 2018
What he says
I think thats one thing that comes naturally to me being able to shut down an opponent and sacrifice my game a little bit for the good of the team. I like to pride myself on making sure Im defending my man and taking him out of the game, regardless of whether I have 10 touches or 20 touches myself. Thats my role in the team, Isaac Quaynor, taccup.com.au, October 2018.
Just seeing the people youve been barracking for was pretty eye-opening for me (when training with Collingwood during the pre-season). The standard that a lot of those players drive is something I really want to work to. When I was out on the track, the intensity of it all was five steps above what Im exposed to at TAC Cup level, Isaac Quaynor, The Age, November 2018. |
http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/news/2018-11-22/welcome-to-collingwood-isaac-quaynor
https://twitter.com/CollingwoodFC/status/1065533301610340352
https://twitter.com/CollingwoodFC/status/1065537709182046208/video/1
Videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbNwYGHb2m0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q069vBepCAo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7qf9QL1jkc
Articles:
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-draft-2018-isaac-quaynor-set-to-join-collingwood-after-rollercoaster-footy-journey/news-story/b7e74204fefb70743bdc4ba0a8a54eaa?nk=ab405116261a0cea29194d7f7d14336c-1542878445
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/a-taste-of-richmond-but-collingwood-looms-for-quaynor-20181116-p50ghx.html
https://taccup.com.au/afl-draft-watch-isaac-quaynor/
http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/news/2018-01-22/lifelong-fan-a-nextgen-draft-chance
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Wooihooo and phew!
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stui magpie 
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Bugger GWS bidding on him, but welcome aboard IQ
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