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Wokko 
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Polls this close after an election mean nothing. Labor was up 63-37 a few months after 2007 and only retained Government because of the turncoat independents from conservative electorates who were both summarily executed for it at the next election.
Labor was up 54-45 a few months after that election then got rolled in a landslide, it's meaningless, news cycle driven nonsense.
Albo is almost as bad as Shorten, Australia's answer to Jeremy Corbyn. A brown cardigan old Socialist. Morrison will have his ups and downs but unless there's a big scandal close to the election I'd expect a 4th Liberal term in Government and the first PM to face and win consecutive elections since Howard. |
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watt price tully 
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| Wokko wrote: | Polls this close after an election mean nothing. ......
Albo is ....Australia's answer to Jeremy Corbyn. |
Out of those two statements you got one right and it's not the latter.
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stui magpie 
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I really don't understand people who fixate on a party like it's their footy team. Apparently it's about the party agreeing with their ideologies. They're political parties, they stand for getting elected basically with a few differences in ideology but not enough to impact pragmatism.
As soon as a leader lets their ideologies loose, they get smacked at the next election. I've voted Labor and Liberal at both state and federal level and I'll keep making my decision based on what I think is best each election rather than being rusted on to one party or another.
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David 
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| wokko wrote: | | Albo is almost as bad as Shorten, Australia's answer to Jeremy Corbyn. |
surely you can’t be serious! 
Labor hasn’t had anyone with anything even in the ballpark of Corbyn’s politics since probably the 1970s. Albanese is just another value-free grifter who managed to trick us into thinking he was a little bit to the left of Shorten a few years ago. He isn’t.
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stui magpie
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Albo philosophically is a fair way to the left of Shorten, he's just smarter which is a bit like saying a tree frog is smarter than the tree.
In the last election Shorten went the class warfare route depite personally believing none of it and it blew up in his face because he utterly misjudged the electorate.
For Shorten, the union movement was a means to an end, Albo is a true believer but he is one who has the smarts to be pragmatic, read the electorate.
Personally I think Albo would make a far better PM than Shorten would have, likely the best Labor PM since Hawke/Keating, but he's going to need to stick for the long haul cos Morrison will win the next election. Albo's job is to get close enough next election to be able to win in the one after that
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watt price tully
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Snouts in the trough: Scotty from marketing shows he's got the ethics of an alley cat (with all due respect to alley cats)
Thought they could get away with it. This secretive malovolent immoral government: taking money earamrked for community groups & diverting to key marginal seats.
Scomo scumbag
"...Government used sporting grants as slush fund for re-election campaign..."
"...The Morrison government used a $100 million community sports program as a slush fund for its re-election campaign, overlooking projects approved by an independent panel in favour of splashing cash in marginal seats...".
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/government-used-sporting-grants-as-slush-fund-for-re-election-campaign-20200115-p53rrt.html
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stui magpie
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Breaking news - Political party spends money in marginal seats to improve re-election chances.
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watt price tully
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Ethics expert says she has to go:
Simon Longstaff of the Ethics Centre
"...Prime Minister Scott Morrison should sack Bridget McKenzie or face ridicule the next time he attacks union corruption or business wrongdoing, an ethics expert says.
Ms McKenzie, the former sport minister, has faced growing calls to stand aside from the ministry after a scathing auditor-general's report found she had skewed funding towards marginal seats..."
https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/ethics-expert-calls-for-mckenzie-to-quit-20200119-p53srg
Of course she has to go:
.There is growing pressure on deputy Nationals leader Bridget McKenzie to resign over the auditor-general's finding last week she awarded sporting grants from a $100 million community program to benefit her government at the next election.
Opposition parties say if she does not step aside, the Prime Minister should sack her.
And Independent MP Zali Steggal is using the scandal as further evidence of the need for a national anti-corruption body.
Today on AM, the Prime Minister backed his minister, saying there were "no issues about ineligibility of any project".
However, the executive director of the Ethics Centre says the case is clear, and that Bridget McKenzie should resign.
https://www.abc.net.au/radio/sydney/programs/worldtoday/a-progressive-decline-in-political-standards:-simon-longstaff/11882240
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watt price tully
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Wokko
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| If you didn't care when Gillard Queen of the Pork Barrel was doing it then why should you be taken seriously with your faux outrage over Morrison? |
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watt price tully
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Pies4shaw 
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David
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I know nobody on the right cares much what Turnbull thinks, but I think he's pretty much spot on here:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jan/23/malcolm-turnbull-criticises-scott-morrison-for-downplaying-bushfire-crisis
| Quote: | “Everybody knew we were in a very dry time and as a consequence the fire season was likely to be very bad,” Turnbull said. “So rather than doing what a leader should do and preparing people for that, he downplayed it – and then of course chose to go away on holiday in Hawaii at the peak of the crisis.
“I can’t explain any of that. It’s not consistent with the way in which a prime minister would and should act.”
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“I can’t explain why he didn’t meet the former fire commissioners who wanted to see him in March last year to talk about the gravity of the threat,” Turnbull said.
In November the former fire chiefs said Morrison had turned down a meeting with them because his government “fundamentally doesn’t like talking about climate change”.
Turnbull also criticised the role of rightwing politics in Australia and the Murdoch press in promoting climate denialism.
“If you go to any of the rightwing thinktanks or read the Murdoch press it is just full of climate denialism,” he said. “And it is designed to deflect from the real objective which has to be to reduce our greenhouse gas emissions.
“To be a climate change denier is a badge of honour on the right wing of politics here and in the US, and it is mad.”
Turnbull said Australia was “in the frontline of the consequences” and needed to act on the climate crisis to show the world that it was important.
“How many more coral reefs have to be bleached, how many more million hectares of forest have to be burned?” he asked. “How many more lives and homes have to be lost before the climate change deniers acknowledge they are wrong?
“If a country like Australia is not prepared to grapple with this issue seriously, itself being in the frontline of the consequences and being an advanced, prosperous, technologically sophisticated country, with the means to do so, then why would other countries take the issue as seriously as they should?” |
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stui magpie
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Ex Prime Ministers chirping is usually aimed at making themselves look good, the person who replaced them look bad, or both.
I'm still a tad confused why these fire chiefs wanted to see the PM when forestry and emergency management is a state responsibility, it seems they were all former employees of various state bodies who believed that the States weren't adequately resourced and wanted a federal inquiry into it.
Smells like a political stunt.
BTW, sorry for Morrisons father passing away today aged 84. Never fun to lose a parent.
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