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Wokko
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Anecdotally Liberal voters are ambivalent about all the criticism because it's all they've heard for years from the left and liberal media types. How many times do we get ridiculous nick names, frothing anger and hatred, violence etc? It just doesn't have any impact anymore. Now people who never voted Liberal in their life who hang out with people who never voted Liberal in their life will tell you how angry and fed up the electorate is, but really they have no idea. |
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stui magpie
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David wrote: | What I’m really curious about is whether any of this is having any impact on public perception Morrison’s or the government’s position. Has there been any polling in recent weeks that gives any indication one way or the other? Because if he’s still going strong after this, then the man is truly made of teflon. |
Most of those leading the charge on social media are the same ones who threw the toys out of the cot when Labor didn't win the last election.
I'm largely ambivalent and watching. My observation so far is the whole thing blindsided him, he didn't know how to deal with it (clearly neither did his advisors) and he spent the next period alternatively shooting himself in the foot and jamming them in his mouth.
As the time passes though he seems to be pulling his shit together, or at least more together than it was. Any polls now would only be interesting by way of comparison with polls in 6 months time, which I expect will be equal to or better than his polling pre bushfires _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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stui magpie wrote: | My observation so far is the whole thing blindsided him, he didn't know how to deal with it (clearly neither did his advisors) and he spent the next period alternatively shooting himself in the foot and jamming them in his mouth.
As the time passes though he seems to be pulling his shit together, or at least more together than it was. Any polls now would only be interesting by way of comparison with polls in 6 months time, which I expect will be equal to or better than his polling pre bushfires |
My view is that he and his senior colleagues were blindsided because they live in ivory towers and have no concept of what life is like for "ordinary" Australians. His acute discomfort at being amongst the plebs makes this obvious. It's embarrassing to watch. He has no empathy or understanding for his constituents and is now just mouthing the words he thinks he should be saying and doing the things he thinks he should be doing, simply to win back some popularity and political standing. It's all fake concern to ensure that his political life gets extended.
How I long for a leader who is both intelligent and visionary, but who has some understanding, knowledge and empathy for his/her fellow Australians (in all walks of life) and for their country. In other words, someone who governs for society and environment, as well as the economy. Sadly, there appears to be no-one available who is suitable and willing to fill this role, anywhere in our political landscape. |
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Wokko
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We had that in Abbott but because he was a hard conservative he got hounded out and we're worse off because of it.
He was out fighting the fires himself as a rank and file volunteer, he genuinely cared and helped ordinary people whenever he could. Instead we first had Banker prick Turnbull and now Morrison who appears out of his depth as PM. When you get put in as an "Anyone but Dutton" revenge leader by Turnbull's crew then win an election against the most unelectable leader that Labor ever had you've got a long road to learn leadership.
Still, it's early days for PM Morrison but he'd better learn the job fast. |
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David
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The only trouble is that Abbott was totally out of touch in his own way – this was the guy, let’s not forget, who knighted Prince Philip, made Bronwyn Bishop speaker, did everything he could to sabotage the highly popular same-sex marriage campaign and, most damningly, inflicted a right-libertarian austerity budget on a country that had (and has) no appetite for that flavour of politics – a move that probably would have cost the Liberals government if Turnbull hadn’t made his move. Abbott may have had better interpersonal skills than Morrison (though let’s not be too generous), but his political awareness was arguably even worse. _________________ All watched over by machines of loving grace |
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Wokko
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Yeah, I often cringed at some of the things he did. Not sure if it was bad advice/advisors or just pure stubborness. Hockey seemed to be a bad influence as was Credlin and he outright refused to be rid of either of them.
So on one hand Abbott was a bit of a political tin ear but genuine good bloke while Morrison is a shit bloke but is very good at playing politics. I know who I'd rather have in charge and it's not the slick election winning skills guy. Just another indictment on Democracy really, the electorate will always be bamboozled by shysters. Not sure if hoping for a virtuous shyster is a good system. |
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David
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ALP only in front of the Coalition 51-49 two-party-preferred, though. If this is as bad as it gets for them, it's going to be a long decade. _________________ All watched over by machines of loving grace |
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David wrote: | ALP only in front of the Coalition 51-49 two-party-preferred, though. If this is as bad as it gets for them, it's going to be a long decade. |
That’s some “if”
Long way to go and more time for the LNP crazy fundamentalists like Scotty, Kelly to have more rope time. _________________ “I even went as far as becoming a Southern Baptist until I realised they didn’t keep ‘em under long enough” Kinky Friedman |
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Wokko
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Scott Morrison is finished said increasingly nervous man for seventh time this year. |
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stui magpie
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I'm not sure how a survey of 1500 people could be considered anywhere near reflective of the whole country. I expect the numbers would fluctuate seriously between electorates.
For what it's worth though, the LNP is still ahead of Labor on the primary vote according to the poll and the Greens primary vote only went up by 1%.
I'll be very surprised if dip holds through winter _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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Jezza
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Scotty from Marketing will still most likely win the next election.
The fact that the TPP is 49-51 as it stands is an indictment on Labor. _________________ | 1902 | 1903 | 1910 | 1917 | 1919 | 1927 | 1928 | 1929 | 1930 | 1935 | 1936 | 1953 | 1958 | 1990 | 2010 | 2023 | |
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Jezza wrote: | Scotty from Marketing will still most likely win the next election.
The fact that the TPP is 49-51 as it stands is an indictment on Labor. |
49-51 Just after an election? methinks not. Nice try though _________________ “I even went as far as becoming a Southern Baptist until I realised they didn’t keep ‘em under long enough” Kinky Friedman |
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