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Pies2016
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| What'sinaname wrote: | not sure why everyone thinks we need a back up ruck.
If Grundy goes down, we're fooked anyways. I'd rather a player that could play as a permanent forward and perhaps do some part time ruck and do both better than Cox.
In Darcy we have a player who we hope plays ZERO games. If he has to play game, then our season is screwed anyways. |
Well if 17 other clubs all have back up ruckman in their list, there’s probably some merit to it.
In this trade period alone, Frampton traded to Crows, Phillips traded to the Bombers. That’s what you do when you have a list of 40 odd. You have insurance. No one can replace Grundy but why change your entire forward structure by throwing Cox into the ruck when you can roll out Cameron and at least leave your forward line intact |
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Presti35 
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| What'sinaname wrote: | | not sure why everyone thinks we need a back up ruck. |
Cameron is better than most people think. There's a lot of positives to this.
It takes a little of pressure of of us if the unthinkable happened. It gives us the option to rest Grundy. It gives Grundy someone to contend with at training. Low wage and basically a free trade, it's nice to get one over the Swans for once. Sure he isnt the #1 option, but he still fills a need that we have, albeit a lower need.
I've followed Cameron a little bit in the past and I'm shocked that he hasnt played more senior footy. At worst, our VFL team has become more competitive and will give the top 8 a real shake.
| What'sinaname wrote: | | I'd rather a player that could play as a permanent forward and perhaps do some part time ruck and do both better than Cox. |
Thats true, but who is available that can do that?
It's not a great move. But it's a good move. Should have been done in the opening days however.
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Lazza
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How the hell can the club be creative with their reqruiting when the specific player options are not available? WHO are these rucks (except Phillips and Frampton) who were available?
And a question to those who watch the VFL closely, is Lynch a potential senior ruckman in the making?
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| Lazza wrote: | How the hell can the club be creative with their reqruiting when the specific player options are not available? WHO are these rucks (except Phillips and Frampton) who were available?
And a question to those who watch the VFL closely, is Lynch a potential senior ruckman in the making? |
I don't know Lazza. I'm too depressed about our potential future. We huff and puff at Collingwood (Eddie) but nothing ever really happens. We're like Manchester United under the Glazers.  |
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Pies2016
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| Lazza wrote: | How the hell can the club be creative with their reqruiting when the specific player options are not available? WHO are these rucks (except Phillips and Frampton) who were available?
And a question to those who watch the VFL closely, is Lynch a potential senior ruckman in the making? |
That’s a good point.
Also Jacobs went to GWS as their new first ruck and Zac Smith also went back home.
Securing and then keeping a quality second ruckman is bloody difficult because the moment he becomes any good, then he’s off to another club on more money and more opportunity.
I reckon Cameron is an astute pick up. He’s at least a genuine ruckman and would understand he comes to the club knowing his opportunities are limited.
That’s usually what pick 60 odd delivers anyway. |
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What'sinaname 
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would have rathered us taking a punt on Jenkins
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The only way to judge how wonderful this selection is: let the season start!
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Cam 
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| What'sinaname wrote: | | would have rathered us taking a punt on Jenkins |
Ned Guy wasn't interested in him at all. For some reason.
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| Pies2016 wrote: | | inxs88 wrote: | | Rogue2k0 wrote: | Finally - Collingwood involved in a Trade - SERIOUSLY why did it take so long?
Should have been done day 1.
Now we need the following to go through
- Aish to Freo for pick 22 or (St Kilda's 18 for Hill)
- Wills to North for Pick 8 or 26 or 27 - they need a Big Bodied Mid.
- Scharenberg to Adelaide for Jenkins and pick 49 or next years 3rd round (Scharenberg a gun and 6.5 years younger) |
Can you come to my home and "VALUE" my house? |
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The Darcy Cameron trade was the trade we had to do. We dodged a bullet last year by only really having one genuine ruckman on our primary list.
The trade is nothing more than prudent list management.
If he doesn’t play a game for the club, it’s still the right call to make.
As for all the whinging about our lack of trade activity, I notice it generally comes from the same posters who slam any deal we do anyway
The club will never do the right thing by some on here. The club is damned if it does and damned if it doesn’t. |
I have No problems with the Cameron trade, just why it took so long?
Remember, Cox has had 43 hitouts in a game when he played as Ruck?
Lynch is a dud and unlikely to play a senior game.
Question is, can Cameron, Cox and Grundy all play in the same team at the same time? I would say not - and Cameron will only play if Cox or Grundy are out. But hopefully he can show some form in the VFL to at least put pressure on Cox to perform, unlike Lynch. |
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| inxs88 wrote: | | Rogue2k0 wrote: | ...
Now we need the following to go through
- Aish to Freo for pick 22 or (St Kilda's 18 for Hill)
- Wills to North for Pick 8 or 26 or 27 - they need a Big Bodied Mid.
- Scharenberg to Adelaide for Jenkins and pick 49 or next years 3rd round (Scharenberg a gun and 6.5 years younger) |
Can you come to my home and "VALUE" my house? |
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RudeBoy
Joined: 28 Nov 2005
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Cameron is clearly there as a back up player for Grundy.
Reid is there as a back up player for Mihocek, Darcy Moore and possibly Roughead.
Hopefully Cameron and Reid remain VFL players throughout 2020. |
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Streak 
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| What'sinaname wrote: | | If Grundy goes down, our season goes to the shit. Darcy isn't going to be the answer. |
We will see. You could have said exactly the same thing last year about our pickup of Roughead. Would you give Roughead back for anything? |
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| Rogue2k0 wrote: | | Pies2016 wrote: | | inxs88 wrote: | | Rogue2k0 wrote: | Finally - Collingwood involved in a Trade - SERIOUSLY why did it take so long?
Should have been done day 1.
Now we need the following to go through
- Aish to Freo for pick 22 or (St Kilda's 18 for Hill)
- Wills to North for Pick 8 or 26 or 27 - they need a Big Bodied Mid.
- Scharenberg to Adelaide for Jenkins and pick 49 or next years 3rd round (Scharenberg a gun and 6.5 years younger) |
Can you come to my home and "VALUE" my house? |
😂😂
The Darcy Cameron trade was the trade we had to do. We dodged a bullet last year by only really having one genuine ruckman on our primary list.
The trade is nothing more than prudent list management.
If he doesn’t play a game for the club, it’s still the right call to make.
As for all the whinging about our lack of trade activity, I notice it generally comes from the same posters who slam any deal we do anyway
The club will never do the right thing by some on here. The club is damned if it does and damned if it doesn’t. |
I have No problems with the Cameron trade, just why it took so long?
Remember, Cox has had 43 hitouts in a game when he played as Ruck?
Lynch is a dud and unlikely to play a senior game.
Question is, can Cameron, Cox and Grundy all play in the same team at the same time? I would say not - and Cameron will only play if Cox or Grundy are out. But hopefully he can show some form in the VFL to at least put pressure on Cox to perform, unlike Lynch. |
i think the point of this trade is that Cox cant be a full time ruckman and who knows where his career goes from here. Grundy cant play every game every year.
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WhyPhilWhy?
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| Maybe we will be looking to give Grundy a rest in a few games next year. |
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MJ23
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2nd in the NEAFL best and fairest 2018 ( injured last year )
Not many rucks perform well in the midfielders award - think there is up side and keen to see how he develops
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