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Mr Miyagi 



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:22 pm
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Abdul The Bull wrote:
derkd wrote:

Collingwood are desperate for cap space, we are going ro lose some solid players.

Shame i like Aish, and in a perfect world he is a keeper and probably in our starting 22 when fit. Shame to see him go and i wish him nothing but the best.


Ditto, on all counts.


it's a bit disappointing when teams such as Geelong had players voluntarily take pay cuts to stick together back when they had their premiership window open. Aish really hasn't been an automatic selection though, so he probably feels a bit on the outer. Do Millennials rate themselves a bit higher than they're worth? I've noticed it a lot with this generation of footy players, some price themselves more than they're really worth.
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stui magpie Gemini

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 6:39 pm
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I like Aish but the fact is you can't name a single position for us where he's first choice. He can play multiple roles but in each one he's 2nd or 3rd choice behind others, so he's depth.

We suggested he look around, he's thought about that and now has a 3 year offer on the table, likely more than we were going to offer in 12 months so why wouldn't he take not just the money but the security?

I wish him well

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:13 pm
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A handy player , but if we want to keep the guns then we dont have a choice.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:37 pm
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Pies took pay cuts last year to fit Beams in. Damn. Still, there's next year.
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Dave The Man Scorpio



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:03 pm
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Pies4shaw wrote:
Well, he had me putting my hands over my eyes during the 2018 GF. That’s a blinder of sorts, I suppose.


Then could say the Same thing with Nobel and Grundy from there Turnovers in the PF this year

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:11 pm
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Dave The Man wrote:
... Nobel and Grundy ... Turnovers in the PF this year

I checked...

Noble: vs. Geebung 7 clangers (from 19 disposals), vs. GWS 6 clangers (16 disposals).

Grundy: 4 (from 21 disposals), 6 (25 disposals).


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Mr Miyagi 



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:12 pm
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Cam wrote:
Pies took pay cuts last year to fit Beams in. Damn. Still, there's next year.


And the year after. Shocked
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:19 pm
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Mr Miyagi wrote:
Aish is Norwood royalty, but if he's open to Freo then there's no loyalty! lol

I like Aish, but he's a bit of a Wellingham -- plays for the lifestyle and does enough to get a spot, but despite his obvious talent and ability, gets comfy and doesn't take that extra step.


Wellingham is a fleet manager for Audi car dealership in Perth now.

LOL

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:14 pm
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I don't mind trading Aish,he isn't in our best 22, but he is still a good player and I want to know what we get for him. There is no point in trading him for a player of similar ability and experience because it won't help with next years salary cap. What we need is a draft pick for a player whose salary will be reasonably low for the first two years and will only go up after that (by which time some of our older players will have retired).

The problem is that Freo's second pick is 22, which is probably more than Aish is worth, and their third pick is 79 which is a lot less than Aish is worth. Couldn't we trade him back to Adelaide in his home town for their pick 28?

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Mr Miyagi 



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:17 pm
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SteveH67 wrote:
Mr Miyagi wrote:
Aish is Norwood royalty, but if he's open to Freo then there's no loyalty! lol

I like Aish, but he's a bit of a Wellingham -- plays for the lifestyle and does enough to get a spot, but despite his obvious talent and ability, gets comfy and doesn't take that extra step.


Wellingham is a fleet manager for Audi car dealership in Perth now.

LOL


He partied hard and skated downhill, and that's what happens. I don't like to gloat about post-footy careers though, I actually feel pretty awful for a lot of players. They're used by the clubs and AFL and then WHAM! it's over and they have nothing. I was watching Insight last week and John Barnes has nothing, he was a garbo during and after footy, and now with Acquired Brain Injuries he can't even be a garbo. But other players who party it up and don't give a shit about doing the hard yards for the club or their future -- yeah, Wellingham says hello. Remember that blinder of a game he played when Swan (or was it Pendles?) was out injured and Wellingham was the man? His gf at the time told him "this is your chance, step up sweetheart and fulfil your potential!" And he did, for one game... and then went back to partying it up with Buddy and not giving a shit.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:17 pm
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Send them aish and pick 35 for pick 22 and late pick
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swoop42 Virgo

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:26 pm
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Aish has had a solid season and in the final against GWS I was impressed that he was one of just a handful willing to put their body on the line and take the body hit when it was wet.

Still outside his marking which has always been surprisingly excellent for a player of his build I don't see any other elite traits in his game.

He's a neat player but he's never going to be a play maker off half back like a Saad or Houli as he doesn't have the pace or laser like kicking ability that produces quick transition.

I see him as expendable for those players who aren't like Grundy, de Goey and Moore.

If we get a pick below 40 for him then I'd consider it a win as our bargaining position isn't strong given Fremantle know our primary motivation is to dump salary.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:06 pm
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we are losing one of our great strengths. Depth. Injuries will become more important next season because of it.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:22 pm
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A move to Freo will be good for Aish... let's hope it works out good for the Pies.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:18 am
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E wrote:
we are losing one of our great strengths. Depth. Injuries will become more important next season because of it.


This is true. But lets see who we bring in.

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