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RudeBoy 



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 12:16 pm
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The bottom line is we should always recruit the best players available, Indigenous or not. However, to maximise the chance of success of drafting young players from Indigenous communities (many of which face unique sets of social problems), we have to invest on-going resources to ensure our club has the necessary supportive and nurturing environment for these players. The clubs which over the years have done this - particularly Port Adelaide, Essendon, Richmond and Eagles - have reaped the rewards. Sadly, we have a long, long way to go to overcome our failures to face up to this challenge in the past.
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Doug44 



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 12:26 pm
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I think we are starting to do that RudeBoy, but it's chicken and egg. We're not going invest in resources if we have no indigenous players to invest in resources for.

We're heading in the right direction, with Debbie Lovett as our Indigenous Programs Manager, and with Wells expected to be given a role post retirement as well.

https://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/news/2019-10-14/the-story-of-daniel-wells

We now just need more talent, and that comes from recruiting.
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Mr Miyagi 



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 12:28 pm
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Port has a big indigenous community that's supportive. And they had Wanganeen. Essendon had Wanganeen, Long. Kids want to play at clubs Michael Long played at. Eagles have access to a huge aboriginal community whose members don't want to move to Victoria (it's like another country). That's the issue. Aboriginal kids want to play at clubs where their idols played. Michael Long, Gavin Wanganeen. We had Leon for a while and kids looked up to him, but the players we recruited had issues (Lovett-Murray) or just weren't up to AFL level. We've had Varcoe and Wells in recent years, with Kirby recruited -- it was looking good for indigenous culture at Collingwood. But yeah, Wells never got on the park, and Kirby was a tragedy.
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RudeBoy 



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 12:45 pm
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Yeah, you are right Doug44. I think our club is now heading in the right direction, but we are coming from a long way back and so have a long way to go.
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Doug44 



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 12:51 pm
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You'd hope Wells going to the combine with Hine is an indication that they're looking at addressing this in the upcoming draft.
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Mr Miyagi 



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 12:58 pm
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Doug44 wrote:
You'd hope Wells going to the combine with Hine is an indication that they're looking at addressing this in the upcoming draft.


That's great to hear he's still with the club in that capacity!
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BazBoy 



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2019 11:07 am
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Just on our website and saw a real exciting non white we signed

Name is —errr!! Her name is Williams a this girl looks real hard at it go getter

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:13 am
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So, we recruit Buddy and everything will be ok?
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Mossi Leo



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 9:24 am
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I can't help remembering 2011 with Magic Leon and cAndy Krak, were we exciting!!! The way they helped turn the Adelaide game 360°. Any aboriginal youngster who saw that would have loved the black and white. Unfortunately Andy and Leon were at the wrong end of their carriers. I got excited again with Kirby, and we know how that went! I still Love watching Varc's Hopefully the club gets opportunities to draft some indigenous talent some time soon.
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shawthing Virgo



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:05 pm
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RudeBoy wrote:
The bottom line is we should always recruit the best players available, Indigenous or not. However, to maximise the chance of success of drafting young players from Indigenous communities (many of which face unique sets of social problems), we have to invest on-going resources to ensure our club has the necessary supportive and nurturing environment for these players. The clubs which over the years have done this - particularly Port Adelaide, Essendon, Richmond and Eagles - have reaped the rewards. Sadly, we have a long, long way to go to overcome our failures to face up to this challenge in the past.


Absolutely spot on. We have been left miles behind in creating an environment that is conducive to young indigenous players. But the fact is we NEVER draft them anyway! Rolling Eyes

Mind you Collingwood has stopped being a destination club - period - not just for indigenous players. No one seems to want to play with us anymore. More trade activity this week and not a cracker for Collingwood.
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K 



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:17 pm
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shawthing wrote:
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Mind you Collingwood has stopped being a destination club - period - not just for indigenous players. No one seems to want to play with us anymore. ...

The main selling points for players are money, premierships, and injury management.

We've screwed our salary cap (supposedly), have long premiership droughts, and butcher our players' bodies.

I guess we can still be a destination club for players who are insane, or foreigners who don't know anything.
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BazBoy 



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:49 am
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Not indigenous but foreign—let’s consider Jok
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K 



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:21 am
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I'm sure the VFL side would love to have him back. Dunno about a spot, even as rookie, on the senior list, though.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 5:15 pm
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Cyril looking good for the Tiwi Bombers... and still only 30. Very Happy
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