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Harrysz 



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 7:45 pm
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Last year we almost won a Grand Final.

This year we almost won a Preliminary Final.

We're clearly good enough to be a top 4 side. What must we do to reach that pinnacle? Trade? Train harder? Change the game plan?

We won the same number of games as last year. Bux says he thinks we've improved, because we had a much tougher draw this year than last year. Still, I think we have to develop more consistency and somehow find a way to take more advantage of Grundy's ruck dominance. Oh, and a bit more luck with injuries would be nice.

Thoughts?
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dalyc Scorpio



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 8:01 pm
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Sell Grundy for a player we need plus a first rounder, move Cox to ruck, get Cameron.

It ain’t gonna happen (and I don’t really want it to) but you asked so I gave it a go.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 8:12 pm
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If you want to look at the Tigers as being the blueprint then we are a mile off everywhere except for probably in the back half. We have no reliable key forwards, a slow midfield that plays reactive/passive footy and we don't run and gun the ball forward with speed & aggression. None of these issues can be resolved easily. We need to start with our mindset firstly and understand that we need to start playing more aggressively, especially in the back half of the year. Getting ALL key personnel fit and firing at the back end is critical as well. The midfield attitude and lack of power forwards are just massive issues in my book. As well as our reliance on Pendlebury & Sidebottom to generate play whom are now starting to get chopped out in big games. Richmond don't rely heavily on Martin/Cotchin (however when fit Martin is unstoppable and always delivers these days) but Geelong still rely on Danger/Selwood and so do we in Pendles/Sidey.
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the fuzz 

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 8:12 pm
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Kick one more goal
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Piesnchess 

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 8:20 pm
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Maybe recruit Tiger type players like Stack, Higgins, and this new Marlion, that might help a tad.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 8:32 pm
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I do feel if we had ours best 22 we would have at the very least played in the Granny and if Darcy had played last year, we win that game!
So the key thing for me is to get our fitness department right. Does that mean an overhaul? Rip up the ground? Or pay for the hammy doctor to setup shop at the holden centre? Remove all the constantly injured players? I don’t know but it’s killed us.
Cox, Beams, Langdon and friends will make us a much better side. I don’t think Richmond are that good, the middle rung sides of 10 years back would beat the comfortably for mine. I don’t think we’re far off if we can get our best 22 on the park.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 8:40 pm
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Monco Matt wrote:
If you want to look at the Tigers as being the blueprint then we are a mile off everywhere except for probably in the back half. We have no reliable key forwards, a slow midfield that plays reactive/passive footy and we don't run and gun the ball forward with speed & aggression. None of these issues can be resolved easily. We need to start with our mindset firstly and understand that we need to start playing more aggressively, especially in the back half of the year. Getting ALL key personnel fit and firing at the back end is critical as well. The midfield attitude and lack of power forwards are just massive issues in my book. As well as our reliance on Pendlebury & Sidebottom to generate play whom are now starting to get chopped out in big games. Richmond don't rely heavily on Martin/Cotchin (however when fit Martin is unstoppable and always delivers these days) but Geelong still rely on Danger/Selwood and so do we in Pendles/Sidey.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 8:45 pm
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Trade Grundy for Cameron

Desperately need a key forward who can kick 40+ goals a year. How’d we all love to have Clokey now...
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 9:25 pm
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You know how I know trading Grundy is a dumb idea? Because if you said he was on the table 17 other clubs would line up for him.

We need some pace in the middle and a blessed run with injuries. We’re not far off it at all.

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We don’t have a successful blueprint. Second best Or almost winning a prelim is failure pure and simple.
We do not have the right mix of players. Thinking we do is what costs us a premiership. We accept second best. Oh we did great, we had a good year etc etc.
Yes we almost made it Yes we have a good list
What we don’t have is a Grand Final winning list

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 9:29 pm
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Only one team every year has a GF winning list in reality. You’ve got to be thereabouts multiple years running to give yourself the best chance.

After the emotion dies down a prelim after an unexpected GF is a good result. I take heart that WCE lost badly in 2015 and won 3 years later. We are still in the window and only some minor tweaks are needed

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 9:30 pm
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Deja Vu wrote:
You know how I know trading Grundy is a dumb idea? Because if you said he was on the table 17 other clubs would line up for him.

We need some pace in the middle and a blessed run with injuries. We’re not far off it at all.


Richmond wouldn’t
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 9:35 pm
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IF an I say IF for once, just once, we can finally, at long last, have a healthy list next season, no long term injuries, just for once, and if we can do some canny recruiting over the drafts etc, we can match it with anyone, on our day, even the Tigers, whom we have beaten 2 outa last 3.
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IF an I say IF for once, just once, we can finally, at long last, have a healthy list next season, no long term injuries, just for once, and if we can do some canny recruiting over the drafts etc, we can match it with anyone, on our day, even the Tigers, whom we have beaten 2 outa last 3.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 9:41 pm
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eddiesmith wrote:
Deja Vu wrote:
You know how I know trading Grundy is a dumb idea? Because if you said he was on the table 17 other clubs would line up for him.

We need some pace in the middle and a blessed run with injuries. We’re not far off it at all.


Richmond wouldn’t


Agree! And nor would 12 other clubs.

I’ve said it many times.... Grundy is good, but we don’t need him to win a flag. An average ruckman will suffice, and a couple of key forwards will make the world of difference.

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