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Redlight 



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:03 am
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K wrote:
"This is big and if this was a Collingwood player there would be uproar."

Shocked Shocked

Connors has been and maybe still is manager to Collingwood players. That's a ridiculous thing to say.


We all know that any Collingwood player would've got three weeks for the attack on Bont. The media and footy public would've nodded sagely and agreed that justice had been served.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:18 am
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The stupidest thing about his manager's comments is that this clearly has nothing to do with what team he plays for. Who the hell cares about GWS?

Clearly, if he has been hard done by at all here, it's purely because of who he is, not who he plays for – and "who he is" just happens to be a guy with a long track record of cowardly acts on the football field. Whose fault is that, exactly? It's clear he would be just as hated if he played for any of the other 17 teams, if not more so. And if he was an Adelaide, Brisbane, Carlton, Collingwood, Essendon (etc.) player and got done for a spiteful act like this a week after getting a massive fine for doing the exact same thing, I doubt many people would be playing the world's smallest violin for him.

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Damien Aquarius

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:59 am
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Saw Connors coming out last night. Why the hell was he even there?

Anyway who said two wrongs don’t make a right. Last week they got it wrong v the Dogs and this week they got it wrong v the Lions but it was the right outcome because justice was done.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:45 am
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Greene is nothing more than a bi product of the Giants “ brand “
When their coach comes out and says he is proud of the way Greene plays, then you know the issue is way bigger than just Toby Greene.
A good football club would have pulled him aside and harnessed him after the Bont incident.
As long as the tail continues to wag the dog, they will never win a premiership with this group of players.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 11:08 am
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I think the unquestionable quality and credibility of senior lawyers on jury to assess the evidence, puts this to bed absolutely.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:21 pm
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Pies2016 wrote:
Greene is nothing more than a bi product of the Giants “ brand “
When their coach comes out and says he is proud of the way Greene plays, then you know the issue is way bigger than just Toby Greene.
A good football club would have pulled him aside and harnessed him after the Bont incident.
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This is a great, enjoyable article that mentions a change in the giants "brand", amongst other things:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-20/afl-conspiracy-theories-abound-in-collingwood-gws-prelim-final/11530614
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:44 pm
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Does anyone else get the feeling this is all Collingwood's fault now??
The way everyone is carrying on. Man, listening to these people complaining, saying if it was a Pies player there would be an uproar etc.

Let me just say, I think Greene is a dirty player, but I just don't 'hate' him as I do some other players. I don't no why. I should, but I don't. He's that bloody good.

He should have got done for 4 weeks for the attack on Bont. No questions. The evidence against him for the Neale attack was weak.....until is WASN'T! That other angle is damning. The blindness of so called footy experts is staggering. Just because they want the Giants to win.

Anyway, lets move on and win tomorrow!

Go pies.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:51 pm
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Greene should have got a week for his eye gouging of Bont, but should have got off the 2nd charge imo.

He is a nasty, dirty little mongrel, but also an incredible player. I wish he played for us.

Putting that aside, what pisses me off is the way the media are carrying on about how the giants are missing Greene and Whitfield; completely ignoring the fact we are missing De Goey and Cox, our full forward and centre half forward.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:26 pm
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Matthews having a sook about “feels like we have been playing Collingwood all week”. In reference to Chrisso on the MRP then Wakelin at the tribunal.

Loveridge must be a closet magpies fan.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:45 pm
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the fuzz wrote:
Does anyone else get the feeling this is all Collingwood's fault now??
Go pies.


Yep and it $$%^%%$ pisses me off. Not just media but opposition supporters too. You don't even have to read between the lines in this article:

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/feels-like-we-ve-been-playing-collingwood-all-week-giants-slam-greene-ban-20190920-p52t83.html

They're trying to distract us and get us riled up and lose focus. **** em. Don't give them anything. It's their problem, not ours, we had nothing -- absolutely nothing, zero, nada -- to do with this, so the Collingwood Football Club shouldn't even have to $$%^%%$ defend itself!

Toby Greene pleaded guilty -- GUILTY -- the first charge. He faked his remorse and faked his apology, then went out the next week and did exactly the same thing again. So **** hin, and **** anyone defending this lying little turd. It's an indictment on everyone's character who says TG is victimised. Again, imagine if it was a Collingwood player who did it.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:53 pm
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Toby who???.... Turn it up
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Mr Miyagi 



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:57 pm
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Yep, he's in the rear view mirror now and fast disappearing. We're looking forward. The only concern is it makes the Giants unpredictable -- will it fire them up, deflate them, or will they be the same team as last week?
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Mr Miyagi 



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 2:11 pm
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It's getting worse. H-S just now:

"Toby Greene
Ex-Magpie at centre of Toby Greene storm
APPEAL FAILS GWS says it has lost faith in the tribunal system and Sydney radio shock jock Alan Jones has weighed in with his own Toby Greene conspiracy theory after the matchwinner's failed appeal.
1h ago"
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 2:41 pm
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Mr Miyagi wrote:
It's getting worse. H-S just now:

"Toby Greene
Ex-Magpie at centre of Toby Greene storm
APPEAL FAILS GWS says it has lost faith in the tribunal system and Sydney radio shock jock Alan Jones has weighed in with his own Toby Greene conspiracy theory after the matchwinner's failed appeal.
1h ago"


Oh FFS it's utter madness. Are these people just blind in their hatred for Collingwood (and to the video footage) or do they condone thuggery.

I think it's time football asked itself a REAL question about its ethics (a footy pub test if you like):

If the same action committed on a football field would result in an assault charge if committed on the street, shouldn't a player be suspended automatically?

As far as I'm concerned, we are far beyond the days of the old code of "what happens on the footy field stays on the footy field". If it is criminal assault on the street, then charge the players! And I'm deadly serious Alan Jones, Derryn Hinch and whoever else might want to chime in on this - CHARGE THEM!
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Pies4shaw Leo

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 2:43 pm
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Amidst all of the whining about poor Toby, we are losing sight of the wood for the trees. The bottom line is, unquestionably, that there is no place whatsoever for conduct like Greene's in the AFL. He should have been given half a season for the Bontempelli incident and life on the second offence. I am appalled that there is even a question about his suspension.

I simply cannot understand why anyone (whoever they support or however peculiar their worldview) could defend Greene. His conduct has no place in any sporting activity.

I understand that people lose their cool, from time to time - I remember that even Buckley did that one day when Ling was tagging him - and there can be consequent lashing out in anger but that isn't what happened here, at all.
This was a cold and calculated act. it is quite beyond belief that anyone could think it was within the realms of acceptable human behaviour to rake at someone else's face.
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