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Jezza
2023 PREMIERS!
Joined: 06 Sep 2010 Location: Ponsford End
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The political class have sold out their constituents in Britain.
What a joke this has become. _________________ | 1902 | 1903 | 1910 | 1917 | 1919 | 1927 | 1928 | 1929 | 1930 | 1935 | 1936 | 1953 | 1958 | 1990 | 2010 | 2023 | |
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Wokko
Come and take it.
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MPs are overwhelmingly remain and are too out of touch to understand why people want to leave. They're hell bent on sabotaging the process. |
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Tannin
Can't remember
Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Location: Huon Valley Tasmania
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stui magpie wrote: | Corbyn refused the option of an election, WTF is going on over there?
They voted for Brexit, either just do it or say they aren't doing it. This has gone well beyond a joke |
Not at all. Corybn is only to pleased to have an election, and has said so often. The only requirement he has (and it's a very sensible one) is Mad Dog Boris does not crash out with no deal during the pre-election period when parliament is unable to restrain him.
The Commons have already passed the cross-party no-deal brexit ban bill, it just has to pass in the House of Lords and receive the royal assent.
Actually, they didn't vote for actual Brexit, they voted for a fantasy Brexit where there were no penalties and no consequences. This absurd thing was spruiked by Mad Dog Boris and his cronies but the days when people believed that are long past
The thing to do now is negotiate the best deal possible - an actual deal, not the silly fantasy one written on the side of a bus three years ago - and put it to the people, either at an election or via a referendum. _________________ �Let's eat Grandma.� Commas save lives! |
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think positive
Side By Side
Joined: 30 Jun 2005 Location: somewhere
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Great post Tannin,
This also effect other countries in the EU it needs to be sorted properly _________________ You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either! |
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Pies4shaw
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Joined: 08 Oct 2007
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David
I dare you to try
Joined: 27 Jul 2003 Location: Andromeda
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Good news, I suppose – but you know, I have a feeling that this only plays into Johnson's bull-in-a-china-shop, us-against-the-elites (I know, the irony) electoral appeal. Anyway, at least they'll be actually getting the opportunity to hammer out a deal on time now, which seems preferable to running the clock down. _________________ All watched over by machines of loving grace |
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Pies4shaw
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The most important thing about the decision is its insistence on the principles of representative democracy. The consequences of that jurisprudence could be far reaching. Here is the nub:
55. Let us remind ourselves of the foundations of our constitution. We live in a representative democracy. The House of Commons exists because the people have elected its members. The Government is not directly elected by the people (unlike the position in some other democracies). The Government exists because it has the confidence of the House of Commons. It has no democratic legitimacy other than that. This means that it is accountable to the House of Commons - and indeed to the House of Lords - for its actions, remembering always that the actual task of governing is for the executive and not for Parliament or the courts. The first question, therefore, is whether the Prime Minister’s action had the effect of frustrating or preventing the constitutional role of Parliament in holding the Government to account.
56. The answer is that of course it did. This was not a normal prorogation in the run-up to a Queen’s Speech. It prevented Parliament from carrying out its constitutional role for five out of a possible eight weeks between the end of the summer recess and exit day on the 31st October. Parliament might have decided to go into recess for the party conferences during some of that period but, given the extraordinary situation in which the United Kingdom finds itself, its members might have thought that parliamentary scrutiny of government activity in the run-up to exit day was more important and declined to do so, or at least they might have curtailed the normal conference season recess because of that. Even if they had agreed to go
into recess for the usual three-week period, they would still have been able to perform their function of holding the government to account. Prorogation means that they cannot do that. |
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