Grundy re-signs.
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K
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| 9 years in prison? Isn't that a bit harsh? |
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Presti35 
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| K wrote: | | 9 years in prison? Isn't that a bit harsh? |
No, out new moderator Pies4shaw is going to the slammer for joking about Pendlebury being a soft 30 game player. 
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Doug44
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| K wrote: | | You are overly defensive when there's any discussion about whether the playing list might be overpaid. e.g. objectively $500k+ is a large salary by AFL standards. That's just a fact. |
It's also fairly reasonable to argue that the players who are allegedly on that (we don't actually know what they are on) are good players by AFL standards. Well above average. So they are paid their market value. In fact Cox, Elliott, Moore, De Goey, all tested their market value, and stayed for less.
So I will ask a different question, if you are denying my assertion that you imply the players are greedy and selfish and happy to opportunistically act on supporter and media hype.
How many of our players do you think are getting less than they should?
Don't say "oh I don't know" or "I don't know what he's worth", because you're more than happy to say what a player is NOT worth.
There, is the implication. An implication is not something you actually say. It's something you say without actually saying it. |
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RudeBoy
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| If it's true that he knocked back $1 Million a year over 5 years, becauase of his insistence for a 7 yr contract, then it suggests he doesn't really want to stay a Magpie. All star players can always get more money (or a longer contract) going to another club, but usually they sacrifice some money to remain at the club which nurtured their talent, when other clubs chose not to draft them. You'd hope Grundy would do likewise. Time will tell I guess. |
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Pies4shaw 
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| Why should he? Treloar’s contracted until 2025. |
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Skids 
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| RudeBoy wrote: | | If it's true that he knocked back $1 Million a year over 5 years, becauase of his insistence for a 7 yr contract, then it suggests he doesn't really want to stay a Magpie. All star players can always get more money (or a longer contract) going to another club, but usually they sacrifice some money to remain at the club which nurtured their talent, when other clubs chose not to draft them. You'd hope Grundy would do likewise. Time will tell I guess. |
Yep, the club have made a good offer, and come on, it's like winning Lotto every year for 5 years for chasing a bit of leather half of it.
If you want more and want to walk away from the greatest club in the world, go!
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Skids
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| Pies4shaw wrote: | | Why should he? Treloar’s contracted until 2025. |
And?
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Lazza
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| Pies4shaw wrote: | | Why should he? Treloar’s contracted until 2025. |
Probably because Treloar really wants to play for Collingwood (Remember he pissed Richmond off by choosing Collingwood) while Grundy whinged and whined wanting to take his bat and ball to Adelaide. I’d much rather players who will bleed black and white for the jumper always😠 That is the true side by side spirit we urgently need to win finals and a few flags.
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Pies4shaw
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Where do you get off talking about Grundy "whingeing and whining"? You're making that stuff up.
The guy has just won back to back best and fairests - there is no evidence he doesn't want to play for Collingwood.
Meanwhile, the simple point I was making is that Grundy wants a 7-year contract and Treloar is already sitting on a 6-year one. It isn't difficult, really - Grundy is by far our best player (Treloar isn't in the top 3) and if he wants a longer contract, he should get it. If we don't give it to him, a club that values him appropriately will. |
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eddiesmith 
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| Pies4shaw wrote: | | Why should he? Treloar’s contracted until 2025. |
And whats your point? A 5 year extension for Grundy would take him to the end of 2025... |
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Pies4shaw
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Don't you go simple on me, eddie - the point is that Treloar already has a 6-year contract in place. He got a six-year contract to come to Collingwood, too. He just likes that little bit of extra security, apparently:
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2017/04/11/magpie-star-all-for-monster-contracts/
Meanwhile, people are saying Grundy should settle for 5 years.
As to your observation about the end of 2025, Grundy is over a year younger than Treloar, doesn't depend on his pace to get a kick and hasn't ripped either hamstring off the bone (yet) - so how is Treloar worth the punt on a contract to age 32 and a half and Grundy not? |
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| Skids wrote: | | RudeBoy wrote: | | If it's true that he knocked back $1 Million a year over 5 years, becauase of his insistence for a 7 yr contract, then it suggests he doesn't really want to stay a Magpie. All star players can always get more money (or a longer contract) going to another club, but usually they sacrifice some money to remain at the club which nurtured their talent, when other clubs chose not to draft them. You'd hope Grundy would do likewise. Time will tell I guess. |
Yep, the club have made a good offer, and come on, it's like winning Lotto every year for 5 years for chasing a bit of leather half of it.
If you want more and want to walk away from the greatest club in the world, go! |
$1 million per year isn't what it used to be.
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| Pies4shaw wrote: | Don't you go simple on me, eddie - the point is that Treloar already has a 6-year contract in place. He got a six-year contract to come to Collingwood, too. He just likes that little bit of extra security, apparently:
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2017/04/11/magpie-star-all-for-monster-contracts/
Meanwhile, people are saying Grundy should settle for 5 years.
As to your observation about the end of 2025, Grundy is over a year younger than Treloar, doesn't depend on his pace to get a kick and hasn't ripped either hamstring off the bone (yet) - so how is Treloar worth the punt on a contract to age 32 and a half and Grundy not? |
exactly, and grundy plays a position where he could break down. i think we all get too emotional about contracts and money. Let players take care of their business however they chose. The club can decide what it wants to do for the good of the team and so the player should be able to do whatever he wants as well for his won good. If the two find a place where both interests align, the sign a contract. Until then they wont. we wasted 100 pages a few years ago speculating about Trav Cloke and debating 4 years vs 3 years vs 5 years. My god, it was mind numbing. All because we couldnt just wait for the process to play out in its own good time.
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| Pies4shaw wrote: | | ... Grundy is over a year younger than Treloar, doesn't depend on his pace to get a kick and hasn't ripped either hamstring off the bone (yet)... |
Be patient. Club sources say they are working on it. |
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K
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| Doug44 wrote: | ...
How many of our players do you think are getting less than they should?
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Less than they should? Like underpaid?
None or almost none!!
Do you think the club is involved in some sort of underground slave labour business? You could argue about e.g. rookie wages, but that's a fixed number and not set by the club.
(Non-playing staff... Well, that's different.) |
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