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Piesnchess
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IF we start finally kicking soda goals we should kick, if we start scoring goals we should never, ever miss. Agree  
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Pies4shaw 
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Joined: 08 Oct 2007
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We can win the premiership if we make the finals and win the last two we play in. It's simple, really.
Of course, it might help to have a CHF who could touch the ball occasionally and we might want to replace 4 or 5 other very average footballers with some guns but, hey, let's talk it up. We've just beaten Essendon. We haven't beaten them in like, well any of our last 25 meetings against them (except all the times we did), so obviously beating them by 4 points on Anzac Day is not just hilariously funny (because it obviously upset them soooo much) but also announces our arrival as a premiership contender. |
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K
Joined: 09 Sep 2011
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| Pies4shaw wrote: | ...
Of course, it might help to have a CHF who could touch the ball occasionally and we might want to replace 4 or 5 other very average footballers with some guns but, hey, let's talk it up. ... |
Naughton? (Too late now, of course.) |
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MatthewBoydFanClub
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: Elwood
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It’s as simple as this. We have three champion players who don’t always hit teammates - Crisp, Adams and Sidebottom. If they eliminate their errors on GF day we win, if not we lose. The teams that win on GF day are boring to watch because they don’t make mistakes. Illustrating this Beams is a very boring player to watch. Josh Thomas is in a lesser category but same thing. Beams and Thomas may not win you a GF but they won’t lose you one either.
The challenge for Buckley is to assemble a team together on GF day that will take the game on and not relent under pressure by the opposition who will exploit every weakness we have. To do this we need to have a team with the right combination of risk takers, guys who will steady the ship when we lose the momentum of the game and at least one leader in defence, midfield and forward play who senses a shift in opposition tactics and resets his field even before the coaches box catches on. |
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Pies2016
Joined: 12 Sep 2014
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1 ) consistently kick more goals than behinds.
2 ) have a healthy list in September
3 ) Darcy Moore is still playing good footy late in the season. On field, he is the single biggest difference to last years performance and what we can go on to achieve this year. |
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inxs88
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Cost us the Cats game and nearly yesterday!
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Pies4shaw
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| MatthewBoydFanClub wrote: | It’s as simple as this. We have three champion players who don’t always hit teammates - Crisp, Adams and Sidebottom. If they eliminate their errors on GF day we win, if not we lose. The teams that win on GF day are boring to watch because they don’t make mistakes. Illustrating this Beams is a very boring player to watch. Josh Thomas is in a lesser category but same thing. Beams and Thomas may not win you a GF but they won’t lose you one either.
The challenge for Buckley is to assemble a team together on GF day that will take the game on and not relent under pressure by the opposition who will exploit every weakness we have. To do this we need to have a team with the right combination of risk takers, guys who will steady the ship when we lose the momentum of the game and at least one leader in defence, midfield and forward play who senses a shift in opposition tactics and resets his field even before the coaches box catches on. |
Did Beams hit a target more than 3 metres away, yesterday? I have this compelling sense of him turning repeatedly into his left and belting it straight onto Essendon chests. Perhaps I am mistaken and this only happened every second time he got the ball? |
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Achilles
Joined: 25 May 2010
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We don't have to face WC, or if we do, apply the same template PA did when they beat them. Do we have the players to do that? I'm not 100% sure.
We need to get better at set-shots. Had we landed a couple of them yesterday, it wouldn't have been as nail bitingly close as it was. |
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GoWoodsmen
Joined: 18 Apr 2005
Location: Australia
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| Piesnchess wrote: | | IF we start finally kicking soda goals we should kick, if we start scoring goals we should never, ever miss. Agree |
I agree Piesnchess. If we take our chances early against Geelong in Round 1, we probably win. We take our chances in the first quarter yesterday I think it would have been a rout, we were that much on top of them. Even against the Lions at one stage I think it was 9 shots to 1 and we only led by 20 something points. It's frustrating leaving the door ajar.
Footnote: I haven't been on Nick's for so long.... and wow, same personalities destroying thread after thread with vitriol. Amazing.
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melliot
Joined: 07 Apr 2006
Location: Bendigo
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Winning the GF, normally does the job.
More seriously and less direct. Healthy list. Then it's all about if we are good enough. Which we are. |
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RudeBoy
Joined: 28 Nov 2005
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| if.....our supposed exquisite midfield can begin taking advantage of us having the best ruckan in the AFL, and start winning more clearances. How we are not dominating this area of the game is puzzling, to say the least. |
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Pies2016
Joined: 12 Sep 2014
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| RudeBoy wrote: | | if.....our supposed exquisite midfield can begin taking advantage of us having the best ruckan in the AFL, and start winning more clearances. How we are not dominating this area of the game is puzzling, to say the least. |
Our midfield can certainly still improve but I’m not convinced it’s going as badly as a lot of people think. A very similar midfield got us to within a kick of the flag last year.
We are pretty quick to find fault with our own team but the reality is we have less problems onfield than about 15 / 16 other clubs. By the end of round 6, every club will have beaten at least once. We have had easily the toughest early draw and we are 4 from six. ( 5 from 6 if we had kicked marginally better )
When you begin to compare us to the other clubs, we are travelling way better than the vast majority. We don’t need to be perfect in the guts, just better than 17 other clubs around the ground.
For mine, if we start capitalising on the shots on goal our midfield is supplying, it won’t have to improve much more at all. |
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RudeBoy
Joined: 28 Nov 2005
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Good points there P2016. I guess i'm still smarting at the way our midfield were overran in last year's GF, so I want to see this area of our game significantly improve.
But you are right, overall we are in fabulous shape, compared to most teams. |
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K
Joined: 09 Sep 2011
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| MatthewBoydFanClub wrote: | | ... The teams that win on GF day are boring to watch because they don’t make mistakes. Illustrating this Beams is a very boring player to watch. ... |
Two of Beams's kicks yesterday were very unboring to watch, both of them in D50, the second that wormburner attempted 15m pass late in the last quarter. |
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K
Joined: 09 Sep 2011
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| Pies2016 wrote: | ...
We are pretty quick to find fault with our own team but the reality is we have less problems onfield than about 15 / 16 other clubs. By the end of round 6, every club will have beaten at least once. We have had easily the toughest early draw and we are 4 from six. ... |
Isn't this just saying that every team is mediocre or worse? That gives us a chance but if in September there are 8 mediocre teams that's still just a 1 in 8 chance. We need to be better than mediocre. (Not saying we aren't or won't be, but we can't be sure others e.g. GWS won't also be.)
| Pies2016 wrote: | ...
Our midfield can certainly still improve but I’m not convinced it’s going as badly as a lot of people think. A very similar midfield got us to within a kick of the flag last year.
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But WC are not going great either. Can they just say "A very similar team got us the flag last year"? |
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