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David
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Morrigu wrote: | David wrote: | Plus the broader question of whether such terms should be allowed to exist in the first place. |
Serious question David - is there a code of conduct included in your employment contract? Is there anything that you could post on social media - not something that identifies or targets colleagues or your actual workplace - that would allow your employer to terminate your contract?
For me and all my siblings and friends we all know that we are very limited in what we can say or post in the way of personal opinions on social media and that is due to the professions we work in and the codes of conduct that we are bound by - even outside work hours and not directly related to our work, workplace or colleagues.
Not saying I like it but it's the way it is now and if one wants to keep their registration and employment well...... |
I’ve actually scrutinised this very closely – particularly over the course of the most recent Enterprise Agreement process (which concluded a bit under a year ago) – and my conclusion is that, while they at least offer lip service to the distinction between personal and professional social media use, there is still a degree of ambiguity to the language that could in theory be exploited by the company. So it’s something I’ll be monitoring and, if need be, working with the union to address if they seek to extend their reach.
I’m not so bothered by the stuff about not criticising your employer or revealing confidential work information on social media channels, and of course I agree with policies against bullying or harassing work colleagues on Facebook, etc. What I’m primarily concerned about is basically what we’re seeing here in the Folau case: sanctions being placed on non-workplace-related posting, including forms of political, religious or artistic expression. I think we need a clear line in the sand on that, clearer than most workplaces currently offer. _________________ All watched over by machines of loving grace |
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stui magpie
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^keep in mind, for the average person, it's not just workplace expectations but what Fair Work Australia deems reasonable.
There's no point having a policy that says you will sack people for x, y and z if Fair Work aren't going to let it fly.
The fact that people have been sacked for stuff posted on social media and fair work have supported decisions is what creates the precedent of what is acceptable and what's not. _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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Wonder whether they considered his previous workplace misconduct when they gave him only 6 wks. |
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stui magpie
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Started as an emergency registrar at Box Hill in Jan 2019.
I'm tipping if he's still employed there it won't be for long unless they've really changed, _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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stui magpie
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Back to the Folau cas
Quote: | Rugby Australia is facing a potential Polynesian player backlash after one of the Wallabies' most exciting prospects claimed all Pacific Islanders "might as well just be sacked" because of their religious beliefs.
In an explosive development days out from Israel Folau's attempt to save his multimillion-dollar career at an RA code of conduct hearing, Queensland Reds and Wallabies hooker Taniela Tupou took to Facebook to express his support for the under-fire superstar.
"Seriously Might as well sack me and all the other Pacific Islands rugby players around the world because we have the same Christian beliefs," Tupou posted late on Tuesday night.
"I will never apologise for my faith and what i believe in, religion had nothing to do with rugby anyways #TYJ" |
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/rugby-union/might-as-well-sack-me-and-all-the-other-pacific-islands-rugby-players-folau-firestorm-takes-a-dramatic-twist-20190501-p51iuj.html _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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stui magpie
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Morrigu
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^ yep District???
Not the sharpest tool in the shed is he
“Lose job in Australia over stuff posted on a Singaporean forum?” Lee, who is from Malaysia but studied medicine in Melbourne, wrote, “Are you retarded?”
Wouldn't want him treating me - oh you have chest pain lets amputate your leg then!!!! |
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David
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stui magpie wrote: | Back to the Folau cas
Quote: | Rugby Australia is facing a potential Polynesian player backlash after one of the Wallabies' most exciting prospects claimed all Pacific Islanders "might as well just be sacked" because of their religious beliefs.
In an explosive development days out from Israel Folau's attempt to save his multimillion-dollar career at an RA code of conduct hearing, Queensland Reds and Wallabies hooker Taniela Tupou took to Facebook to express his support for the under-fire superstar.
"Seriously Might as well sack me and all the other Pacific Islands rugby players around the world because we have the same Christian beliefs," Tupou posted late on Tuesday night.
"I will never apologise for my faith and what i believe in, religion had nothing to do with rugby anyways #TYJ" |
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/rugby-union/might-as-well-sack-me-and-all-the-other-pacific-islands-rugby-players-folau-firestorm-takes-a-dramatic-twist-20190501-p51iuj.html |
Good. Puts Rugby Australia in a very, very awkward spot, which is where they ought to be. _________________ All watched over by machines of loving grace |
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swoop42
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Let's be honest.
It's Rugby Union.
Who gives a stuff anyway?
Rugby League has won the battle for the hearts and minds in the northern states while the AFL is more popular again across the whole of the country.
These two sports sucking talent away from RU is the prime reason we get embarrassed by the Kiwi's every bloody time now.
Good enough reason right there to let it die.
LOL. _________________ He's mad. He's bad. He's MaynHARD! |
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K
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Rugby League expressed the same stance as RA. And it's not just about rugby, is it? |
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stui magpie
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Luke Creasey, the labor candidate for Melbourne, under fire from both the Libs and the Greens for comments he made on facebook back in 2012 may not just have his chances of election in a touch of strife. apparently, he's a teacher at Coburg High school.
I'm getting in early posting about him in this thread _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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David
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I think it’d be a disgrace if he got sacked for that, honestly. _________________ All watched over by machines of loving grace |
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stui magpie
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Mob mentality. What happens if enough parents at that school get over heated and start complaining to the department and the principal? _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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David
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Don’t want to be a broken record, but this is why we desperately need better labour laws in this area. _________________ All watched over by machines of loving grace |
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