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Presti35
Dick Lee for Legend Status
Joined: 05 Oct 2001 Location: London, England
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Ok so you've given away a fifty.
So does that give the team winning the fifty the right to stop the offending player getting back on the mark?
Cos that just happened and WCE are assured victory. _________________ A Goal Saved Is 2 Goals Earned! |
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Piesnchess
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simple, wet toast paid off the umps, brown paper bags full of cash in umpires room post game, monty. _________________ Poverty exists not because we cannot feed the poor, but because we cannot satisfy the rich.
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Mr Miyagi
Joined: 14 Sep 2018
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And Ryan allowed to play on before the ump had even set the mark/50m. He'd ran about 60m at that play on point too. Umpire communication with players was absolutely atrocious tonight.
Scumps utterly ****ed up these calls tonight. Heads should roll. |
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bally12
Joined: 30 Sep 2010
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Both the Phillips free kick then the ensuing 50m was a disgrace.
The 50m to Ryan was a bigger disgrace. The AFL is a disgrace. I'm not going to another game until this gets sorted out. Why waste 4 hours of your time for some idiot umpires to destroy a sporting contest. |
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ronrat
Joined: 22 May 2006 Location: Thailand
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The AFL will come out and say it was the correct call, despite footballers of the calibre of Ling and Dangerfield who have no dog in the fight saying it was a disgrace. Maybe it will take a player getting carted off when he is jumped on to draw a free kick before they wake up. _________________ Annoying opposition supporters since 1967. |
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think positive
Side By Side
Joined: 30 Jun 2005 Location: somewhere
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the umpiring was an absolute farce tonight. we simply are not allowed to win.
we get a run, they pull out a zinger.
was Degoey tripped? it sure looked it from my seat.
our players were crunched into the turf time and again, no fifties, and that Howe one, wtf! disgraceful. call it and pay the fine, it was a bloody joke _________________ You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either! |
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David
I dare you to try
Joined: 27 Jul 2003 Location: Andromeda
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Really don’t like the new 50m penalty rules. It’s already a massive penalty (often given for debatable infringements), and there’s no sense that a team would ever be remotely disadvantaged by being forced to go back and take their kick from a specific point on the field after the penalty has been given (i.e. there’s no conceivable risk to the principle of advantage). So why the new play on rule, and why make the player manning the mark have to walk on eggshells at the risk of an 100m penalty (as we saw in the, I think, Sydney–Adelaide game last week)? I wouldn’t mind players being permitted to play on while they’re running to the mark, but they definitely shouldn’t be able to continue beyond it. _________________ All watched over by machines of loving grace |
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PyreneesPie
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David wrote: | Really don’t like the new 50m penalty rules. It’s already a massive penalty (often given for debatable infringements), and there’s no sense that a team would ever be remotely disadvantaged by being forced to go back and take their kick from a specific point on the field after the penalty has been given (i.e. there’s no conceivable risk to the principle of advantage). So why the new play on rule, and why make the player manning the mark have to walk on eggshells at the risk of an 100m penalty (as we saw in the, I think, Sydney–Adelaide game last week)? I wouldn’t mind players being permitted to play on while they’re running to the mark, but they definitely shouldn’t be able to continue beyond it. |
Well said David and completely agree! |
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Johnno75
Joined: 07 Oct 2010 Location: Wantirna
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One of the new rules is the player can play in at any point during the 50m penalty and that’s why some sprint as if they pass you you then can’t impede their path you have to get someone else up the ground to cover the mark. Silly rule but still doesn’t explain why De Goey not given 50 when they were deliberately holding up play. _________________ Human behavioural studies suggest people who use a lot of swear words tend to be more honest & trustworthy. |
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Side By Side
Joined: 30 Jun 2005 Location: somewhere
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Johnno75 wrote: | One of the new rules is the player can play in at any point during the 50m penalty and that’s why some sprint as if they pass you you then can’t impede their path you have to get someone else up the ground to cover the mark. Silly rule but still doesn’t explain why De Goey not given 50 when they were deliberately holding up play. |
exactly right. and they held up play all night. 2 sets of rules _________________ You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either! |
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Jezza
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The umpires are paying 50m penalties with too much ease.
The decision against Phillips was a disgrace. The sliding rule is easily the worst rule ever implemented by the AFL due to the overreaction of one bad incident a few years back when Gary Rohan broke his leg. _________________ | 1902 | 1903 | 1910 | 1917 | 1919 | 1927 | 1928 | 1929 | 1930 | 1935 | 1936 | 1953 | 1958 | 1990 | 2010 | 2023 | |
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E
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Jezza wrote: | The umpires are paying 50m penalties with too much ease.
The decision against Phillips was a disgrace. The sliding rule is easily the worst rule ever implemented by the AFL due to the overreaction of one bad incident a few years back when Gary Rohan broke his leg. |
i think what is worse, isnt that they pay them too easily, its that they pay them in an inconsistent manner. If Howe's was 50 because he established the mark incorrectly one metre too far forward, why isnt it 50 when in the next 5 minutes, 2 times the eagles player slowed up play by refusing to give the ball back to the player. in one case (i think others mentioned it here), GeGoey had to pull at the ball for about 10 seconds. Fast break over!!!!! _________________ Ohhh, the Premiership's a cakewalk ....... |
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Side By Side
Joined: 30 Jun 2005 Location: somewhere
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E wrote: | Jezza wrote: | The umpires are paying 50m penalties with too much ease.
The decision against Phillips was a disgrace. The sliding rule is easily the worst rule ever implemented by the AFL due to the overreaction of one bad incident a few years back when Gary Rohan broke his leg. |
i think what is worse, isnt that they pay them too easily, its that they pay them in an inconsistent manner. If Howe's was 50 because he established the mark incorrectly one metre too far forward, why isnt it 50 when in the next 5 minutes, 2 times the eagles player slowed up play by refusing to give the ball back to the player. in one case (i think others mentioned it here), GeGoey had to pull at the ball for about 10 seconds. Fast break over!!!!! |
Yep, 100% _________________ You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either! |
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Haff
Joined: 25 Apr 2016
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Both 50s were technically correct.
1st the umpire clearly pointed it was a WCE free and then ball went to a Collingwood player. They’ve been paying that forever.
2nd Howe stood up after the contest, clearly new the mark had been paid and then put his arm around Ryan. Different to the other non 50s where the contact lingered but was already there when the free was paid.
Both are harsh but in the rules.
The issue is the sliding rule is a farking joke and this new rule around playing on is to hard on the infinging team. Unless a player who intends to man the mark is quicker than the player receiving it they will either need to let them play on or pull someone from up the ground to man the mark which leaves their man free. Basically now 50m = almost certain score. _________________ The match day thread is for unfiltered BS knee jerk reactions. The time for level headed comment comes after. |
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Mr Miyagi
Joined: 14 Sep 2018
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It's a shit rule and it's not the first time we've seen it stuffed up this year. |
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