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David
I dare you to try
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Is there actually any law that specifically protects a prime minister in those situations, though? To my understanding she’s being prosecuted for chucking an egg at someone, not chucking an egg at the PM ... officially, anyway. _________________ All watched over by machines of loving grace |
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stui magpie
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
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No specific law, but context.
You can be charged with Assault without actually hitting anyone. In the majority of those situations, cops (or DPP) won't bother prosecuting as no one's hurt, not worth the paperwork and time.
In the case of someone attacking the PM, different context. The law isn't different, it's the different context that drives the charges.
We've never had a PM assassinated, or any legit attempt made. We'd like to have the PM be able to mingle with the public without having a SWAT team around him ready to shoot anyone who blinks in their presence.
Think back to the Taswegian flake who nutted Abbott or consider what the reaction would've been if a teenage boy had smashed an egg on the back of Julia Gillards head while she was PM during a public meet and greet. _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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Pies4shaw
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So, what's the verdict? Eggs are a health hazard and bullets would be cleaner? |
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Pies4shaw
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/15/charlottesville-james-alex-fields-sentencing
A man convicted of federal hate crime charges for deliberately slamming his car into a crowd of anti-racism protesters during a white nationalist rally in Virginia has been sentenced to life in prison on state charges.
James Alex Fields Jr, 22, was sentenced on Monday to life plus 419 years for killing one person and injuring dozens during the “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville on 12 August 2017. |
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Pies4shaw
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ronrat
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watt price tully
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On a few levels that misses the point here. See the background story for context. _________________ “I even went as far as becoming a Southern Baptist until I realised they didn’t keep ‘em under long enough” Kinky Friedman |
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Pies4shaw
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Skids
Quitting drinking will be one of the best choices you make in your life.
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Pies4shaw
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David
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They’re not trying very hard, are they? _________________ All watched over by machines of loving grace |
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watt price tully
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Pies4shaw
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Looking forward to Carson's feeble efforts to play a straight Nazi bat to this one: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/21/trump-racist-squad-democrats-omar-ocasio-cortez-tlaib-pressley
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jul/21/donald-trump-racist-wall-street-republicans
It started with Donald Trump’s racist tweets demanding that four Democratic congresswomen – Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Rashida Tlaib, Ayanna Pressley and Ilhan Omar – “go back” to the “crime-infested places from which they came”.
All four women are American citizens and only one, Omar, was born overseas.
On Wednesday, at a rally in North Carolina, Trump continued his attack, especially on Omar. In response, the crowd chanted: “Send her back!”
Subsequently, Trump tried unconvincingly to distance himself from the chant.
The relevant question is not whether Trump is a racist. Of course he is. Or whether he’s going to continue bashing these members of Congress, who fill all his demonization boxes: Democrats, females, people of color, a Muslim. Of course he will.
The real question is whether the people bankrolling Trump and the Republican party are going to stop this rot before it consumes the politics of 2020, and perhaps more....
The RNC is intentionally and mendaciously fueling the same racism Trump is fueling, for the same purpose: whipping up the base.
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Why is Wall Street funding Trump’s GOP? Because it is delighted with what Trump and Senate Republicans are giving it: tax cuts and regulatory rollbacks.
Dimon was instrumental in getting the Trump-Republican tax cut through Congress. Last year it saved JP Morgan and the other big banks $21bn.
Trump and the Republicans have also given Wall Street more freedom. They defanged the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau and have allowed the banks to grow even larger, announcing more mergers and acquisitions in the first five months of 2019 than in any full-year period since the Street nearly imploded in 2008.
The result has been vastly more money for the Street. Last year’s bonus pool totaled $27.5bn – more than three times the combined incomes of the approximately 600,000 Americans earning the minimum wage.
Since Trump’s inauguration, JP Morgan’s stock is up nearly a third. Dimon earned $31m in 2018.
Asked recently how Trump was doing, Dimon gushed.
“Regulatory stuff, good.”
The summit with North Korea’s Kim Jong-un? A “great idea.”
He also complimented the administration’s “negotiating tactic” on China and called the relationship between big business and the White House “active and good”.
Asked about Trump saying the Fed had “gone crazy”, Dimon said he had “never seen a president who wanted interest rates to go up”.
Wall Street and the CEOs of major corporations have made a hellish deal – ignore Trump’s repugnance and provide ongoing support for the GOP regardless of its complicity in return for high returns. Perhaps they also believe that the flames of racism and xenophobia will distract the nation sufficiently for them to continue looting it.
But a deal with the devil can exact a large toll. Flames that distract now could lead to an uncontrollable conflagration.
The putative leaders of the American economy owe it to the nation: they must help douse this fire.
Robert Reich, a former US secretary of labor, is professor of public policy at the University of California at Berkeley and the author of Saving Capitalism: For the Many, Not the Few and The Common Good. He is also a columnist for Guardian US. |
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Wokko
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Try putting the Guardian down and you might stop seeing Nazis under your bed and feeling the masturbatory urge to call people racists. |
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thesoretoothsayer
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Trump's tweet is inaccurate, offensive and xenophobic.
Can you help me understand what part of it is racist?
If Trump told John Oliver to "go back to where he came from" would that also be racist? |
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