Transgender politics and social issues

[stui magpie]

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Police should be free to beat up on Nazis on pure principle, just like they should be able to leave dingbats who glue themselves to roads to take their chances with the traffic.

[watt price tully]

In the Age today in the briefs (letters):

“All I did was organise a rally to pick on transgender people. How was I to know that nasty people would turn up” ?

Brilliant

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This was very good too:

“I see the deeming rate is going up - but only for the Liberals”

[What'sinaname]

‘Theybies’: Parents speak out about letting young children choose their own gender

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/parenting/kids/theybies-parents-speak-out-about-letting-young-children-choose-their-own-gender/news-story/435d0a50fe19155e731f00680cc33f96

Not sure if life is becoming a South Park episode or if the South Park writers work for news.com.au

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Why can't Tom Boys grow up to be happy dykes like they used to?

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[David]

I know someone who’s done this. I can respect the decision and understand where it’s coming from, but the problem is that there is no such thing as a neutral signifier; "they" is not the absence of gender, but signifies something else, an identity in its own right (i.e. being non-binary). So, for me, referring to your child as such is at least as much a choice being made for them as an assigned gender would be.

Far better to give your child the freedom for gender-neutral (or cross-gender) expression, try to raise them without gendered bias and let them choose their own path if they wish. I don’t know if I feel comfortable with any of this being imposed on them, though.

[stui magpie]

For gawds sake, just let kids be kids and chose their own path as they get older and have time to learn and grow into themselves.

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[think positive]

Now it’s the Qld schools debating about pronouns, and teachers saying they should be mediating between parents and students, correct! Bad enough teachers have to be teachers of so much more than just education nowadays, manners, temper control,

I really don’t get this them/they, who thought that was a good idea? Yes it’s about grammar for a start. It makes more sense. Needs a better word.

[David]

Some people don’t identify with either gender, and it just so happens that "they" and its derivatives is the terminology we’ve all learned to use when we don’t know someone’s gender (complete this sentence: "someone left ____ car in my parking spot”). As far as I can tell, it’s completely grammatically sound, and I’m not sure on which grounds you could argue it isn’t.

Some non-binary people do, in fact, prefer to use a different pronoun altogether, like "xe/xir", so you can still use "is" rather than "are" in the singular. But somehow I don’t think that people who have a problem with "they" are going to be more accepting of that.

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People who talk in text language will ever understand the magical, almost musical, flow of a correctly formed sentence!

[David]

Not to mention people who post on Nick's.

[What'sinaname]

[stui magpie]

That's actually disturbing. I don't see a problem with a trans person flogging beer, anyone can drink beer, it's nothing like having a bloke flogging a sports bra.