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Who do you hope wins the US Election?
Trump
39%
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Biden
39%
 39%  [ 9 ]
Don't Care
21%
 21%  [ 5 ]
Total Votes : 23

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stui magpie Gemini

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:42 pm
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Love the comments

"Walls work great, China has had one for ages and they don't have any Mexicans"

Laughing Laughing

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:47 pm
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That is pretty funny Laughing

Walls do work though, they're not made to keep everyone out but to deter the masses, funnel the triers to certain points and slow down the really industrious so they can be apprehended. A wall is a force multiplier, not a static solution.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:04 pm
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^ Do you remember when CNN's Jim Acosta was demonstrating that walls do work. He actually couldn't see the irony of what he was reporting to his viewers Laughing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=th-oXosPN2M

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stui magpie Gemini

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:18 pm
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^

That's commonly referred to as an Own Goal isn't it?

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 7:10 pm
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Seems like business as usual for CNN: obsess over stuff to the extent that they probably forget why they started obsessing over it in the first place. Trump must enjoy having such bumbling foils around – dumb and dumber, basically.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 6:03 pm
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I hope he’s re-elected! It’s entertaining
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:47 pm
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I hope for that ... not to happen.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:55 am
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Watched a great Joe Rogan episode where he was speaking to Mexican security expert Joe Calderon who was explaining the simplest and most common smuggling technique is flying to Canada, then walking down so Trumpy may need two walls. He also mentioned that the columns of refugees did contain many gangster types
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 3:24 pm
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Not really borne out by the numbers of migrants at each border. If building a wall forces a flight up to Canada and a border crossing up there then it's a win.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 4:34 pm
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roar wrote:
Watched a great Joe Rogan episode where he was speaking to Mexican security expert Joe Calderon who was explaining the simplest and most common smuggling technique is flying to Canada, then walking down so Trumpy may need two walls. He also mentioned that the columns of refugees did contain many gangster types


I can't see many of the Mexicans trying to sneak into the US having the cash or papers to fly to Canada or the cojones to try to walk through the snow and sneak over the border

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David Libra

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:38 pm
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Marianne Williamson has hung up her crystals:

https://www.npr.org/2020/01/10/795275971/marianne-williamson-suspends-presidential-campaign

Down to "only" 13 now. Of those, only six have made the next debate stage: Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Pete Buttigieg, Amy Klobuchar and Tom Steyer. Michael Bloomberg is still a bit of a wildcard and you'd think Andrew Yang will stick around, but the other five candidates – Michael Bennet, Cory Booker, John Delaney, Tulsi Gabbard and Deval Patrick – are just running down the clock at this point. Looking likely that we won't see a major cull until after the Iowa caucus at the beginning of February.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 10:51 am
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stui magpie wrote:

I can't see many of the Mexicans trying to sneak into the US having the cash or papers to fly to Canada or the cojones to try to walk through the snow and sneak over the border


Apparently, it's the most common method and not that expensive. The hordes trying to cross via the US - Mex border are probably only the poor phuckers that have no money. If you have any real interest on the Mexican issue, check out the interview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPBejhoKlb8

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:20 pm
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Ta, I'm not flicking through a 2 hour video, so I did a search. I've done the border crossing between El Paso and Juarez on foot each way and seen first hand the difference in affluence between 2 halves of what was once one city, divided by the Rio Grande which serves as the border so it is something I'm interested in.

Looks like it's not that big a number.

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DERBY LINE, Vt. — More than 960 people crossed into the U.S. illegally from the northern border with Canada last year, according to data released from Customs and Border Protection.

While that number is a tiny fraction compared to the migration across the border with Mexico, it represented a 91 percent increase from the prior fiscal year, the data showed.


Note, no where does it say that all those 960 are Mexicans.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/illegal-border-crossings-canada-quietly-rising-data-shows-n981131

Slightly more recent:

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CHAMPLAIN, New York — Mexican citizens are increasingly being arrested for illegally entering the United States from Canada, and the majority are going through a specific part of Vermont and northeastern New York, according to federal law enforcement officials.

In the area, known as the Swanton Sector, 822 people during the 2019 fiscal year were stopped while traversing fields and forests between official crossing points, more than the total, 758, arrested for crossing in all seven other regions on the Canadian border. Mexicans and Romanians make up 565 of the 822 known illegal entrants.


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/growing-numbers-of-mexicans-flying-to-canada-and-sneaking-across-the-northern-border

Compare less than 1000 trying to get in via Canada with 400,000 and up per year from Mexico.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44319094

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David Libra

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 9:21 am
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Sanders is gaining momentum at the right time:

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/13/sanders-progressives-flock-warren-098065

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 9:52 am
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Do you really think the DNC is going to let Sanders anywhere near the nomination?

In other news Corey Booker is out.
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