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stui magpie 
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
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IIRC Obama self identified as "Mixed Race", it was the media and others, both left and right who declared him "Black"
I have NFI how Michelle self identifies
Race IS a big deal in the US and has been since before the Civil War
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Lazza
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Location: Bendigo, Victoria, Australia
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| stui magpie wrote: | IIRC Obama self identified as "Mixed Race", it was the media and others, both left and right who declared him "Black"
I have NFI how Michelle self identifies
Race IS a big deal in the US and has been since before the Civil War |
Just because these stupid and totally ignorant Amerian fools say its a big deal does not make it right dude. Have the balls to challenge and confront them at all times. I do this every time I hear such absolute claptrap in a conversation.
Can someone intelligent tell all these bloody American dumbasses that we all belong to the human race? Thats right, ONE race called the human race. Then all these bloody bigoted fools can separate various people into catogories of whatever floats their leaking boats  
FMD, I'm a coloured South Asian born naturalised Australian belonging to the human race. Proud to be all of that 
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Pies4shaw 
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| Woods wrote: | | Pies4shaw wrote: | | Your conception of race is the interesting thing to me, though. Obama is "black Obama" but we know that neither the Kennedys nor the Bushs would ever be designated as "white" Kennedy or Bush. Curious, really. |
Nothing curious at all.
My original quote (which seems to have pushed buttons with you) was in relation to the prospect of the two ex-president's wives competing to becoming president themselves: "black Obama wants his dynasty created where the white Clinton failed".
The obvious point of difference in colour. And in the US this is a major electoral issue (go ask MLKj).
(Me thinks your self-loathing for your own white skin is driving you to box a shadows. ) |
i don’t have any self-loathing about anything. I’m perfectly content with myself and probably on the smug side. I was teasing out what I felt was a genuine question. You could perhaps cut out the swiping - if I want psychoanalysis, I’ll pay for it. |
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stui magpie
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Lazza Mate, don't shoot the messenger.
The Black / White thing in the US is real and mainstream and comes from left and right.
Media refers to the Black vote
We had the hashtag Black Lives Matter
That's not even touching on the Hispanics.
I've seen black street performers in Vegas taking the piss out of white tourists with clear racial jokes, some self deprecating some not
Right, wrong or indifferent, when you're talking about the USA, race is part of the deal.
Blacks were imported as slave labour
They're over represented in poverty and crime statistics and under represented in high earning jobs and they're collectively pissed about it, understandably so. They own the term "Black" the same way homosexuals own the terms "Queer" and "Gay".
Their culture is not the same as ours.
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Woods 
Joined: 21 Aug 2013
Location: Melbourne
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Confusing stuff, Lazza. On the one hand you say "we all belong to the human race? Thats right, ONE race called the human race."
And on the other hand you say in complete contradiction: "I'm a coloured South Asian born naturalised Australian belonging to the human race. Proud to be all of that"
"All of that"? Did you mean to say "All if it", instead. Because you can't claim that there is only one race and that you are proud to be part of it, and in the next breath say you are also a proud to be a South Asian.
You haven't thought your place in the world through have you. That's okay. Good luck
(Anyway, this thread is about the 2020 election in the US - perhaps best to vent over real and imagined racism in a thread of your own) |
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Lazza
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: Bendigo, Victoria, Australia
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| stui magpie wrote: | Lazza Mate, don't shoot the messenger.
The Black / White thing in the US is real and mainstream and comes from left and right.
Media refers to the Black vote
We had the hashtag Black Lives Matter
That's not even touching on the Hispanics.
I've seen black street performers in Vegas taking the piss out of white tourists with clear racial jokes, some self deprecating some not
Right, wrong or indifferent, when you're talking about the USA, race is part of the deal.
Blacks were imported as slave labour
They're over represented in poverty and crime statistics and under represented in high earning jobs and they're collectively pissed about it, understandably so. They own the term "Black" the same way homosexuals own the terms "Queer" and "Gay".
Their culture is not the same as ours. |
My vent was aimed at the bigoted Amercans, not you.
Yes I have lived in the States and I know that race is a big thing there. My point is that it shouldnt be but they dont think my way.
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stui magpie
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The way you think is good. Hopefully they'll get there.
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Wokko 
Come and take it.
Joined: 04 Oct 2005
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stui magpie
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Wow.
2 comments.
1. Interesting stunt, lot of symbolism that wouldn't fly
2. universal basic income also wouldn't fly
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think positive 
Side By Side
Joined: 30 Jun 2005
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yuk, double yuk!!
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Wokko
Come and take it.
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| *Edit* Fell for fake news, the Full service candidate is still hanging on. |
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David
I dare you to try
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Wokko
Come and take it.
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I read something that Yang had withdrawn but it was a case of going off a bit premature  |
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David
I dare you to try
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Ah, I see. Hold the whipped cream, you might say. 
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Woods
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Straight out of the Bill Clinton playbook.
<Snip – let's leave it there, please. Thanks, David for BBMods.> |
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