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| Do you want the Collingwood club song's words changed, in particular the word "cakewalk"? |
| 1) No. I do not want any changes to the words. |
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79% |
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| 2) Maybe. I am unsure and might be persuaded either way. |
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8% |
[ 4 ] |
| 3) Yes. I want change(s) to the word(s), AND I cannot be bothered reading through the options below to specify exactly what change(s). |
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0% |
[ 0 ] |
| 4) Yes. Specifically, I want only a one-word change (replace "cakewalk"). |
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6% |
[ 3 ] |
| 5) Yes. Specifically, I want the one-line change "There is just one team we favour" (the Club's failed 1983 version). |
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0% |
[ 0 ] |
| 6) Yes. Specifically, I want the one-line change "For the Magpie Army's faithful" (To...). |
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2% |
[ 1 ] |
| 7) Yes. Specifically, I want the one-line change "For the courage is unfailing" (At...). |
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0% |
[ 0 ] |
| 8) Yes. Specifically, I want the one-line change "For I hear the magpie calling". |
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0% |
[ 0 ] |
| 9) Yes. I want change(s) to the words, AND my specific preference is none of the above. |
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4% |
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PyreneesPie 
PyreneesPie
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| K wrote: |
That has nothing to do with being staunch. It's fine for people to want to keep some word or other. It's slightly less fine when they are misguided about why. And it's much more disturbing when some of them are hysterical and abusive just seeing others discuss it. |
I too have found it perplexing K that some folks have not been able to look at this particular topic without some measure of calm and logic about it. After all, it's just a theoretical discussion, not a personal threat to their existence! (Or is it?  )
I guess that demonstrates yet again how the connections to our footy club are so deeply personal in nature (for better or worse!). |
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Rd10.1998_11.1#36
rd10.1998_11.1#36
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| PyreneesPie wrote: | ...
I too have found it perplexing K that some folks have not been able to look at this particular topic with some measure of calm and logic ... |
Yes, PPie. Calm logic would be nice... but even calm illogic would be better than empty personal abuse. |
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Rd10.1998_11.1#36
rd10.1998_11.1#36
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Calm illogic seems an apt description for most of your posts in this thread
Basically the whole topic is how can we affect 0.01% of the player’s psychology; a poor return for effort
If you would have stuck with “I feel embarrassed by the word cakewalk” it would have made some sense
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Different people have expressed different reasons.
As for ROI, the cost to the Club itself (football department and players) of changing that word is almost zero. They don't hold all these myths about "tradition".
As for illogic, your last actual argument in this thread sounds more like an argument for the opposite conclusion (not for the first time from your side). I'm not sure why you think it supports your conclusion. |
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Rd10.1998_11.1#36
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Rd10.1998_11.1#36
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| K wrote: | | As for ROI, the cost to the Club itself (football department and players) of changing that word is almost zero. They don't hold all these myths about "tradition".. |
So you agree cakewalk has no impact on the club and players; or the win-loss ratio
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| Rd10.1998_11.1#36 wrote: | ...
So you agree cakewalk has no impact on the club and players; or the win-loss ratio |
Huh?? I certainly don't agree with that claim.
The effect is one-sided (no harm), and comes cheap (to them, if not to all supporters). |
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PyreneesPie
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| Rd10.1998_11.1#36 wrote: | | PyreneesPie wrote: | | "The times, they are a-changing" |
The poll results aren’t |
This doesn't bother me unduly. It's a poll only. It's what supporters say to explain their vote that interests me.
Just wondering if you read the article and what you thought of it? |
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PyreneesPie
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| Rd10.1998_11.1#36 wrote: |
Basically the whole topic is how can we affect 0.01% of the player’s psychology; a poor return for effort
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I don't think learning one new line in a song takes a great deal of effort 
If you mean effort/expense by the club, well, I've already answered that one in a post to David. |
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Rd10.1998_11.1#36
rd10.1998_11.1#36
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| K wrote: | | Rd10.1998_11.1#36 wrote: | ...
So you agree cakewalk has no impact on the club and players; or the win-loss ratio |
Huh?? I certainly don't agree with that claim.
The effect is one-sided (no harm), and comes cheap (to them, if not to all supporters). |
How many extra wins can we count on after changing the song?
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Rd10.1998_11.1#36
rd10.1998_11.1#36
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| PyreneesPie wrote: | | Rd10.1998_11.1#36 wrote: |
Basically the whole topic is how can we affect 0.01% of the player’s psychology; a poor return for effort
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I don't think learning one new line in a song takes a great deal of effort . |
So you agree there is some effort involved
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Rd10.1998_11.1#36
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| What do you mean by "unlike K"? Do you claim to have magical powers that let you know what others have read or not? |
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| Rd10.1998_11.1#36 wrote: | | PyreneesPie wrote: | | Rd10.1998_11.1#36 wrote: | ... a poor return for effort
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I don't think learning one new line in a song takes a great deal of effort . |
So you agree there is some effort involved |
Not from the players and coaches... It's possible there may be some effort needed by the administration to pacify a small subset of hysterical supporters, though. |
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