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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 8:36 am
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David wrote:
inxs88 wrote:
Overused modern vernacular!


Yep. All such Americanisms deserve to be loaded into a cannon and fired into the sun.

(And without being too much of a wet blanket, haven't we had a million of these threads? And is anyone really going to bring up anyone who took the field before, say, 1958, or are we just going to hear the same old names? Greening, Daicos, Buckley, Swan, etc.)


There is only one GOAT and that is Michael Jordan. Maybe two if you include Tom Brady. Three if you stretch to include Tiger Woods. If Australians decide to adopt that word in their culture, that's on Australia and not the US!!!!!! The word is used in the US to facilitate healthy debate about challenges to those assertions. In the US, the general conclusion is that its hard to conclude definitively due to cross generations and diversity of accomplishment (and so it comes down to a personal view). There are some who are entitled to be labelled as such (i.e., the three above, plus any heir to that title - LeBron, Montana, Nicklaus, etc.) I love it! Using the word GOAT as if it is a fact is actually a challenge to someone that you want to have a debate. You dont ask, "who is the GOAT". You assert that so and so IS THE GOAT and then see who you can reel in for a discussion. i argue endlessly with my 11yo son over his label of GOAT for Tom Brady!

If we have a GOAT, i'd argue its Nathan Buckley. But i wouldnt hang anyone for coming out with Daicos, Pendles, Greening, Coventry or any of a pretty big group of players that i also haven't seen.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 8:44 am
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If GOAT was the one and only “Americanism” distaste may be warranted

But in today’s Australia we embrace their culture

Things like St.Valentine,s Day and Halloween are example,s our current day
generation see as ours

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 8:47 am
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The new Halloween thing is a bit disturbing.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 8:56 am
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David wrote:
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(... And is anyone really going to bring up anyone who took the field before, say, 1958, or are we just going to hear the same old names?...)

Okay, Baz (taking on David's challenge), who was the best player you saw play before 1958?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 9:07 am
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Using value to the side during a game and his impact on a result was IMHO
was Bob Rose

An example in a game we were playing (can’t recall opponent) at half time we were 7 goals up and dominating

Bob did not return after long interval and we were rudderless scraping in by less than a goal (by no means was this a one off so influential was his game)

Bob was great both sides of his body ,harder than steel

For courage,skill and a player to inspire teammates Bob was my best

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 9:43 am
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The 1958 period we had some great footballers and I recalled Jack Dyer discussion on one of them

A young Thorrold Merrett arrived at Collingwood as a 16 year old (DOB 1933) after first being told by Richmond “Too small ,too light” Dyer was one who rejected him

He honed his stab pass in his Cobden back yard “stabbing “ the ball thru a car tire suspended from a rope (pinched idea from Bradman and golf ball)

The career was brilliant

Later on World of Sport egged on by Lou Dyer admits his mistake

Lou he said “He could kick a ball up a chooks “a#***s from 50 yards” said Jack

Years after the 50,s I saw a player who came close to “Thrupence “ aka turn on a three penny bit was our name for Merrett

Barry Price came close

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 10:08 am
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 10:08 am
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Bob Rose
1946-1955



https://forever.collingwoodfc.com.au/players/bob-rose/


Thorold Merrett
1950-1960



https://forever.collingwoodfc.com.au/players/thorold-merrett/
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 10:17 am
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They wrap up Burke —Barrot—Clay ((Richmond sixties centre line)

But the fifties at Vic Park of Merrett—Bill Twomey Jnr.—-Healy center line was superb

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 10:19 am
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Great photos K
#22 Bob
#17 Thorrold

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:16 pm
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Barry Price
1966-1975, 1979



[When he had hair! Wink ]

https://forever.collingwoodfc.com.au/players/barry-price/
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 4:36 pm
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Question!!
What number did Barry Price wear

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 4:38 pm
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Is this a trick question? Did he wear more than one number in his career?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 5:52 pm
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When I first saw Pricey he wore 5 and when elevated to DVC he wore 3 as was the nabit in those days.With Price and Greening belting the ball down full backs had no hope on McKenna. Colin Tully was around then and he use to send these low skimming drop kicks as well.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2018 6:08 pm
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K mate I actually forgot Bubba,s number 🤪
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