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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 3:03 pm
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Was infamous for lack of defensive pressure at a club not famous for defensive pressure.

Either he an't be taught, in which case we don't want him, OR he had bad teachers and we can show him the light.

I wouldn't say no to a 2-goal a game forward who could also develop the required defensive mindset.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 3:06 pm
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if I followed Carlton then a big yes from me
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 3:54 pm
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if I followed Carlton then a big yes from me


Carlton would be neglectful not to take both Menz and Goddard as rookies.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 4:21 pm
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Could do a Nick Davis in a final for you.

Only if we have a spot to be filled. If we don't, nah.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 4:39 pm
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piedys wrote:
simon tonna wrote:
if I followed Carlton then a big yes from me


Carlton would be neglectful not to take both Menz and Goddard as rookies.


Correct mate.

But they may end up with the second pick in future drafts and that does not go down to well with there members.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 4:41 pm
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Too slow to apply forward pressure. Tackle numbers very low.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 4:44 pm
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I don't think we need him, we've got a truck load of medium forwards and midfielders who either are or should be kicking a goal or two.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 5:23 pm
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Put him in the forward line next to Fasolo over at Carlton.

That gives valuable and well-paid work to two players who might otherwise wind up playing WAFL or SANFL. And at Carlton, they'll average four or five goals a game between them, sometimes six. That will make the Carlton fans deliriously happy.

Between them, they will also give up two or three goals a quarter through a failure to chase and pressure, which is eight or ten extra goals a game for 17 other teams, which will make all the other teams' fans deliriously happy.

And provide more time for ad-breaks so the TV stations will be happy.

And better highlight tapes, and more entertaining games, which will make the AFL beancounters happy.

So that's a win-win-win-win-win-win-win.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:40 pm
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melliot wrote:
Come on... We missed Kane Tenace agian, surely this is the next best option. Smile


Kane's still keen if we are!

My goodness you have taken back with that reference, I'd forgotten all about that theme, gold! When was that, 2009?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:42 pm
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I remember hearing a lot of the same things about Medhurst when he first came over; just sayin'
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:46 pm
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^ Medhurst was not injury-prone, though. (I'm curious to know more about this injection in Menzel's groin that supposedly "went wrong".)
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:31 pm
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melliot wrote:
Maybe consider as a rookie spot for back up. But possibly is excess to needs.

Can certainly kick a goal. Averages about 2 per game. Which is probably close to elite. This is his big asset. A good offensive medium forward.
Seems to lack defensive ability. I think this is the biggest down side and why Cats have moved on. He can't affect a turnover. A massive part of today's game plan requirement.

He was in a similar situation last year, but was given a 1 year extension on smaller $.

Apparently 5 or so clubs are interested.

I agree with this. He would indeed be great back up. We are not going to be able to get our best forwards on the ground every match. Menzel would be a damn good second best. Lack of tackling pressure is a big drawback, but he has unique qualities and talents that could add another layer of unpredictability and brilliance to our forward line. I would certainly not be unhappy to get him.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:51 pm
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Downgrade on a fit Jamie Elliot for mine. Pass.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:37 pm
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Haff wrote:
Downgrade on a fit Jamie Elliot for mine. Pass.

Exactly. But how often will Jamie get on the park?? Need to be both realistic and shrewd.

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mudlark wrote:
I realise he has had 3 knee recos...


I think it’s 4

melliot wrote:
Apparently 5 or so clubs are interested.


...according to his manager. The media has it that Blues, Saints and GCs have already passed on him. So including the Cats that’s 4 teams that don’t want him

Seems like 4 might be his unlucky number

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