Mumford and Murray
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David 
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I thought it was 21 days? If so, surely that has long passed. This first broke at the end of August, didn’t it?
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stui magpie 
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| RudeBoy wrote: | | woodys_world69 wrote: | | Murray got caught by asada/wada. Mumford caught on video... There's the difference. Meaning only AFL and the club need to give punishment |
Actually, the big difference is that Murray tested positive for cocaine on match day. That's why he's facing a 4 yr ban. If he'd tested positive during the week or in the off-season, he would not have faced a penalty at all, but would have received a confidential warning, under the 3 strikes rule. |
Snap.
Mumford was out injured and not subject to match day testing so if he'd copped a random test at the time, same 3 strikes rule would have applied.
Public video does bring the game into disrepute so some minor sanction may be appropriate for appearances sake, but the arsewipe who decided to put the video on social media deserves a cactus suppository.
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| David wrote: | | I thought it was 21 days? If so, surely that has long passed. This first broke at the end of August, didn’t it? |
August 23rd.
So, why the delay?
| Quote: | Phase 3 - ASADA
If an athlete records a positive anti-doping test result and does not have a Therapeutic Use Exemption, and the relevant international standards have been followed, ASADA notifies the athlete, national sporting organisation, International Federation and WADA about the details of the potential ADRV.
The letter sent to the athlete is generally referred to as the ‘A’ sample notification.
The ‘A’ sample notification informs the athlete that the ‘A’ sample has returned a positive result. The notification also informs the athlete that the ‘B’ sample will be analysed, unless the athlete waives their right to the analysis. If the athlete waives their right to the ‘B’ sample analysis they must do so in writing.
ASADA advises the athlete that it retains the right to analyse the ‘B’ sample even if the athlete waives their right.
The ‘A’ sample notification provides the athlete with a date, time and location of where the ‘B’ sample will be analysed. Generally, a ‘B’ sample analysis occurs a week after the ‘A’ sample notification is received by the athlete. The athlete is advised that they, or a representative, or both can attend the analysis of their ‘B’ sample. In the event they do not attend, the laboratory will appoint a witness to observe the analysis.
ASADA will first notify the athlete of the ‘B’ sample analysis result as soon as possible after advice is received from the laboratory. Generally, this can occur about a week after the analysis. ASADA will then notify the national sporting organisation, International Federation, WADA and the Australian Sports Commission (if required).
A provisional suspension will be imposed on the athlete, in line with the relevant sport’s anti-doping policy, unless the prohibited substance involved is a ‘specified substance’ (which is more susceptible to inadvertent use, like some asthma medications).
ASADA then presents information to the independent Anti-Doping Rule Violation Panel about a potential violation of the World Anti-Doping Code.
It is not uncommon for ASADA to make several attempts to contact an athlete between the ‘A’ sample notification and the ‘B’ sample analysis. This ensures the athlete has been given every opportunity to participate in the process and notify ASADA of their intentions.
There are occasions when the ‘B’ sample analysis is delayed. This is often associated with a request from an athlete to postpone the analysis so they can make arrangements to either personally attend the laboratory in relation to the ‘B’ sample identification and analysis, or have a representative attend on their behalf. There are of course other considerations in relation to scientific analysis, including the availability of staff or testing equipment at the laboratory. |
https://www.asada.gov.au/rules-and-violations/rule-violation-management-process
McGuire said on his show that as of yesterday, October 24th, the club (and I suppose Murray) was still waiting for news of the 'B sample'.
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Skids 
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What's the evidence around exactly what Mumford was snorting?
None.
Do you think that they snort Cocaine in movies? No, it's Inositol. Maybe Mummy has diabetes and was using this as treatment.
There's no 'proof' it was an illegal substance.
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| Skids wrote: | What's the evidence around exactly what Mumford was snorting?
None.
Do you think that they snort Cocaine in movies? No, it's Inositol. Maybe Mummy has diabetes and was using this as treatment.
There's no 'proof' it was an illegal substance. |
exactly what i said!
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| If you think it's Whiz Fizz, then Gold Coast will win the flag next year. |
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piedys 
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| Skids wrote: | | Do you think that they snort Cocaine in movies? No, it's Inositol. |
And once the camera stops rolling in movies, do you think that they snort Inositol? No, it's Cocaine baby! 
| Mr Miyagi wrote: | | If you think it's Whiz Fizz, then Gold Coast will win the flag next year. |
Maybe if more GCS players had actually snorted Whiz Fizz in those first few seasons, then they just still might be at the club, and perhaps playing for a flag, instead of departing for Freo, Port, Bitchmond or Melbourne.
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| Skids wrote: | ... it's Inositol. Maybe Mummy has diabetes and was using this as treatment.
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Medicinal use of inositol would be by mouth, though. (But yep, you can't identify a substance from a video.) |
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Yeah, and Bob Marley smoked tea leaves
For medicinal purposes, of course
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stui magpie
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| Mr Miyagi wrote: | | If you think it's Whiz Fizz, then Gold Coast will win the flag next year. |
I'd love to watch someone do it with crushed pop rocks. 
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Skids
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| stui magpie wrote: | | Mr Miyagi wrote: | | If you think it's Whiz Fizz, then Gold Coast will win the flag next year. |
I'd love to watch someone do it with crushed pop rocks. |
You wanna see someone do it with Viagra  
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Mr Miyagi
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| piedys wrote: |
| Mr Miyagi wrote: | | If you think it's Whiz Fizz, then Gold Coast will win the flag next year. |
Maybe if more GCS players had actually snorted Whiz Fizz in those first few seasons, then they just still might be at the club, and perhaps playing for a flag, instead of departing for Freo, Port, Bitchmond or Melbourne. |
That pretty much sums up their trade movements! Defo a clean up of "culture."
Poor Muzz must be wishing he'd filmed himself snorting coke off a hooker's backside now, miss two games and back playing... |
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HAL
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AN_Inkling
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It's all a bit silly really. We all know that recreational drug use is quite widespread among players and the general population. Test positive out of comp and get a slap on the wrist, trace levels detected on match day and it's four years. Nuts really.
For mine, ASADA should need to prove that the levels found could have had an actual impact on performance. If not, it should be treated as an out of comp violation.
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