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Deja Vu
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Pies2016
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Picking up Roughead is what I would call astute list management.
Useful in a variety of positions that we are potentially short on and virtually no trade to speak of ( depending on free agency window )
C D rate him fairly well in most areas except ruckwork and at his best as a KPD.
One of the problems we had in 2018 was that every time Grundy needed a rest, we had to shuffle our forward line in order for Cox to give him a spell.
There would be many times when that wasnt a preferred option but we were forced to do it.
Roughead will add ruck flexibility as well as holding down a KPD position, particularly in the back half. This would then allow Grundy or Cox to lurk further down the ground for the outlet kick if we won the ball.
Also a good back up if either Cox or Grundy get injured and we dont have to change our structures as much.
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glasseyevfx
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doubt that Mihocek will get moved - you don't change what doesn't need fixing - checkers will only get better up forward.
I also doubt McLarty has any problem with digits - how can anyone think that people don't want to do well.
Roughhead would be a Reid like situation - if he is up and about that's great and a return of 15 games would be good. Expecting a lot from him would only fast track his retirement.
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Bulldogs fan on Bigfooty reckons hes "Cooked" . Is he ???????
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ROB
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Are we all assuming that Dunne and Scharenberg are able to get back on the paddock for 2019? And unless Reid can stay on the paddock, and Moore, then we will likely need a player of his bulk to battle those eagle mongrel forwards. And lets face it, Checkers is not the best option at CHF and would be better if we play him from a forward pocket with Cox and the likes of Stevo and others at their feet, we will have too many options for oppositions to battle. Roughhead or Moore at CHF as big mobile marking targets to then boost it down to the FF line.
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I really like the player but I'm actually writing off Shazza - he's too injury prone unfortunately, if you have 3 knee reconstructions in 5 years.. realistically - you're done.
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winpies 
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| Deja Vu wrote: | Leigh Brown replacement.
Mihocek to back line |
Funny, that thought crossed my mind also about Brown. 
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swoop42 
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| Pies2016 wrote: | Picking up Roughead is what I would call astute list management.
Useful in a variety of positions that we are potentially short on and virtually no trade to speak of ( depending on free agency window )
C D rate him fairly well in most areas except ruckwork and at his best as a KPD.
One of the problems we had in 2018 was that every time Grundy needed a rest, we had to shuffle our forward line in order for Cox to give him a spell.
There would be many times when that wasnt a preferred option but we were forced to do it.
Roughead will add ruck flexibility as well as holding down a KPD position, particularly in the back half. This would then allow Grundy or Cox to lurk further down the ground for the outlet kick if we won the ball.
Also a good back up if either Cox or Grundy get injured and we dont have to change our structures as much.
Get him in. |
It would be bloody rare that someone in the side playing as a KD would be used as the relief ruck as that's just inviting trouble.
I expect Cox to remain our 2nd ruck option.
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| swoop42 wrote: | | Pies2016 wrote: | Picking up Roughead is what I would call astute list management.
Useful in a variety of positions that we are potentially short on and virtually no trade to speak of ( depending on free agency window )
C D rate him fairly well in most areas except ruckwork and at his best as a KPD.
One of the problems we had in 2018 was that every time Grundy needed a rest, we had to shuffle our forward line in order for Cox to give him a spell.
There would be many times when that wasnt a preferred option but we were forced to do it.
Roughead will add ruck flexibility as well as holding down a KPD position, particularly in the back half. This would then allow Grundy or Cox to lurk further down the ground for the outlet kick if we won the ball.
Also a good back up if either Cox or Grundy get injured and we dont have to change our structures as much.
Get him in. |
It would be bloody rare that someone in the side playing as a KD would be used as the relief ruck as that's just inviting trouble.
I expect Cox to remain our 2nd ruck option. |
Could be a handy pickup. He's better than a good ordinary footballer and good insurance too if Moore doesn't stand up.
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swoop42
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| Piesnchess wrote: | | Bulldogs fan on Bigfooty reckons hes "Cooked" . Is he ??????? |
The question should at least be asked.
If Roughead's main selling point is that he can fill multiple key positions are the Bulldogs really in the situation they can trade him away cheaply if he's above average in any one of those roles?
They might prefer others up forward or in the ruck now but are they so flush with quality key defenders they can afford to let him go?
At the end of the day he'll come cheap and if as suspected we are out of the running for May he'll at least offer some insurance down back.
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Pies2016
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| swoop42 wrote: | | Pies2016 wrote: | Picking up Roughead is what I would call astute list management.
Useful in a variety of positions that we are potentially short on and virtually no trade to speak of ( depending on free agency window )
C D rate him fairly well in most areas except ruckwork and at his best as a KPD.
One of the problems we had in 2018 was that every time Grundy needed a rest, we had to shuffle our forward line in order for Cox to give him a spell.
There would be many times when that wasnt a preferred option but we were forced to do it.
Roughead will add ruck flexibility as well as holding down a KPD position, particularly in the back half. This would then allow Grundy or Cox to lurk further down the ground for the outlet kick if we won the ball.
Also a good back up if either Cox or Grundy get injured and we dont have to change our structures as much.
Get him in. |
It would be bloody rare that someone in the side playing as a KD would be used as the relief ruck as that's just inviting trouble.
I expect Cox to remain our 2nd ruck option. |
Im putting forward a scenario where we wouldnt have to send a ruckman into defence every time because there is a bloke down there who can do the job.
You just do a hand over of Rougheads opponent ( if he isnt competing against him ) to the closest extra and if we win the clearance, then Grundy or Cox would be positioned up the ground to compete in the next contest.
It wont happen frequently in a game but its a luxury when you can have players who can compete in the ruck on every line. It just means your other around the ground ruckmen can play a kick behind the play.
He has played in the ruck, its not like its new to him. The key is to make sure Rougheads opponent ( if he doesnt go up in ruck contest ) is marked by a Collingwood player.
At least hes versatile, thats a start. |
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Cam 
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| Piesnchess wrote: | | Bulldogs fan on Bigfooty reckons hes "Cooked" . Is he ??????? |
Something smells bad at the Dogs.
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stui magpie 
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Lets keep in mind the rule changes for next year and their potential to impact team selection and list management.
Example 1, the 6 6 6 rule means you can't have a spare defender at centre bounces. Wings have to be on the wing. So, a team that gets a clean centre clearance can bang it long forward safe in the knowledge that there's no spare defender to intercept. This would make height down back important
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Magpietothemax 
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I like the idea of getting Jordan Roughead very much. Gives us so much extra flexibility and depth with our talls, at almost no cost. We also have a wonderful recent record of recruiting experienced defenders from elsewhere (Dunn, Howe) and transforming them into players a class above their former selves. Think it's one of those low key, but highly strategic trade deals.
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