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| How much would you pay for a coldly clinical demolition if there was ? |
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Woods
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| Thanks for telling me. |
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regan is true fullback
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| Quote: | | Peterson's audience includes Christian conservatives, atheist libertarians, centrist pundits and neo-Nazis |
| Quote: | Such intense adoration can turn nasty. His more extreme supporters have abused, harassed and doxxed (maliciously published the personal information of) several of his critics. One person who has crossed swords with Peterson politely declined my request for an interview, having experienced floods of hatemail, including physical threats. Newman received so much abuse that Peterson asked his fans to “back off”, albeit while suggesting the scale had been exaggerated. “His fans are relentless,” says Southey. “They have contacted me, repeatedly, on just about every platform possible.”
While Peterson does not endorse such attacks, his intellectual machismo does not exactly deter them. |
Dorian Lynskey - Guardian
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Woods
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| regan is true fullback wrote: | | Quote: | | Peterson's audience includes Christian conservatives, atheist libertarians, centrist pundits and neo-Nazis |
| Quote: | Such intense adoration can turn nasty. His more extreme supporters have abused, harassed and doxxed (maliciously published the personal information of) several of his critics. One person who has crossed swords with Peterson politely declined my request for an interview, having experienced floods of hatemail, including physical threats. Newman received so much abuse that Peterson asked his fans to “back off”, albeit while suggesting the scale had been exaggerated. “His fans are relentless,” says Southey. “They have contacted me, repeatedly, on just about every platform possible.”
While Peterson does not endorse such attacks, his intellectual machismo does not exactly deter them. |
Dorian Lynskey - Guardian
Thu 8 Feb 2018 02.20 AEDT |
If you want to challenge the intellectual depth of Peterson you'd be better off quoting someone with a tad more street cred than friggin Dorian Lynskey.
| Quote: | | Dorian Lynskey is a music writer for the Guardian and Observer as well as magazines including Q, GQ and Mojo. He is the author of 33 Revolutions Per Minute: A History of Protest Songs (Faber). |
https://www.theguardian.com/profile/dorianlynskey |
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David 
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“With Jordan Peterson, you know what's my problem. I like to debate with neo-fascists [...] but sorry, Jung is too much for me. When I just open, I cannot buy it for moral reasons, but in a book store I opened a little bit of this '12 Rules for Life'. Fascism is okay, racism is okay, but my gott all those wise advises, you know, like when you see a dog caress him or whatever, that's too much for me.” – Slavoj Zizek
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| I'm not sure if I would like to do debate with neo-fascists [ . What's it like? |
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| Who does ABC Q&A typically have as guests? Why is this sort of person given free publicity time? |
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Pies4shaw 
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Peterson's perfect for Q&A - it's just an opportunity for people to get outraged in public and for the audience to clap and boo. It's like current affairs by pantomime.
As for "this sort of person", well, Q&A gives plenty of very dim people a platform, so Peterson's appearance is about par for the course. |
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| I see. Is this what the ABC has become? Or was it always this way? |
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David
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It's certainly the way Q&A has always been. I get the impression that TV, in the distant past, sometimes had space for more intellectually engaging shows where people might actually sit around for a long period and talk about genuinely interesting things. But that age is long over, and it's all about soundbites now.
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^wrong.
Remember Robert Moore's Monday Conference?
There was the men's rights apologist who was shouted down by a bunch of feminists, the pro Rhodesia bloke who couldn't get his point across, the conflict was worth more than the debate...
This had a lot to do with Robert Moore, who was no George Negus, but was apolitical in a Molly Meldrumesque way, and whose main job was to keep the ABC out of controversy. He lacked the will to let either side have their say.
I doubt if the Right's latest Milos Alex Breitbart will do anything more than preach to the converted, and piz off the rest of us. |
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David
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^ Oh, I'm very sure there was a lot of bad TV on back then. I just get the impression – mostly from old YouTube clips – that you might occasionally get Noam Chomsky sitting in an armchair talking to a guy about linguistics for an hour, or extended discussions with artists and filmmakers. In some senses, TV seems to be a lot faster now than it once was.
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