Matty Lloyd, i dont understand you ?!

[Albert Parker]

No doubt, our set up is more De Goey centric at present.

Perhaps a function of his own leg injury, but also WHE, who hasn't been the same since he hurt himself. I did think the signs were promising on WHE's performance on the weekend though. Much improved on recent weeks. Much more involved.

Stephenson has gone off the boil too.

We got a long way behind the Tiges last time and narrowed it to 4pts at the last change, which we were well down on interchange options by then with Howe and Scharenberg down.

Richmond's forward set up is better suited to the shape of our defence too, with only Riewoldt as a tall marking target. Goldsack is a pretty good match up

With Treloar, DeGoey, Aish, Sier and one or two others in the team versus last time we played them, we can be right in this game up to our eye balls, particularly if Martin is playing hurt. Ou mids can get on top. We need to have a spread of goal kickers this week. Grimes is a good match up for DeGoey. We need to stretch their defence with weight of numbers and not bomb away.

[Tannin]

^ Agree with all of that.

[What'sinaname]

To be fair to special needs people like Lloyd, I suspect he was saying that Richmond have a credible tall forward threat in Reiwoldt.

Cox isn't a credible forward threat - 2 finals, 0 goals.

So in reality, we have a 5 small forwards forward line.

[RudeBoy]

[What'sinaname]

[Bleedblackanwhite]

Lloyd, enough said.

[Bucks2014]

This is why we shouldn't worry about what the media thinks. Loydy has been saying for weeks we are the only side that could beat Richmond at the G. Then a few weeks ago he changed his tune and said we can't beat them without treloar.

Well treloar is back and now it's our forward line that's the concern. Not our back line that he and all of us have been concerned about.

Sunday footy show he said we are nowhere near Richmond. I can only think Melbourne must be his new favourite.

Anyway we are clear underdogs, I'm expecting an absolute ripper game with some good inclusions from our round 19 meeting. Who wants it more, hopefully us.

Conclusion forward line was fine last week, bad kicking, bad football.

[watt price tully]

[Geek]

[tbaker]

Lloyd is just trying to make himself look good and like an expert by going with the overwhelming media view that pies have no chance against richmond. He knows he will have more credibility by bagging pies in an almost certain loss (as established by the media and betting markets). I for one think these negative comments will do nothing but inspire us further - let them keep coming and we can perform no worse than their expectations - but perform better than expected and we may just provide the mightiest of upsets...

[Take_a_Screamer]

Lloyd is generally interesting to hear his views but maybe someone got up him for liking Collingwood too much.

One of the most respected, knowledgeable commentators is Robert Walls IMHO. Wonder what he thinks?

[K]

According to Footy Classified:

Pies' Scoring
Rds 1-22 93.8
Rd 23-SF 71.7

Collingwood Target I50
JdG 9
MC 8
WHE 7
BM 5
JS 2.

[MJ23]

I didnt mind comments about the forward line so much - Have to remember the whole forward line is very inexperienced for finals. Saw a stat where Cox is top two or three for contested marks in the comp and we haven't seen that as much in finals. It doesn't mean we wont.

What stunned me was the stats they put up about us being out scored in the last qtr in both games this year - No mention of the players we were down at the time.

Then I thought about it and Im happy with that, keep talking us down !!

[3rd degree]

Lloyd a tad jealous I would think , real shame that his mob lost to the scum.

[SwansWay]

He was the only one who said that the Eagles game could be a big blowout. He said all other finals were closely matched except Pies and Eagles. I believe that ended up being the closest game of the bunch.