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Should cats be eradicated from Australia?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 5:35 pm
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stui magpie wrote:

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... Feral cats are estimated to kill 750,000 birds a day in Australia, and council staff said the bounty came in response to “an exploding population” of feral cats hunting native wildlife.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/nov/13/queensland-council-stands-by-10-bounty-for-adult-feral-cat-scalps
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This is astonishing. A billion birds slaughtered by cats in less than 3 years.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 5:41 pm
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^

Not to mention the numbers of reptiles, amphibians and small mammals

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 5:53 pm
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 6:28 pm
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^

I used to have a dog who looked a little like that. German Shepherd x Lab with maybe a touch of great dane in the genes. He could jump and take a stick out of my hand at full extension which is just about 2.4m.

He didn't like cats. After I had to send him to live with my parents up bush, he cleaned up the strays within about a block radius. Frequently when taking him for a walk, my dad would have to wrestle a dead cat from his mouth once they got home and put it in the bin.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 7:18 pm
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Same model, different shirt... (Hmmm... I think they may have just photoshopped the different shirt design on the above pic.)

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 1:04 am
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K wrote:
Same model, different shirt... (Hmmm... I think they may have just photoshopped the different shirt design on the above pic.)


yes they did, the nasty shirts both have the same crease lines in them, easy job that one!

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 1:34 am
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^ And the square in the second pic is very straight-edged and two-dimensional looking. Not a very convincing job they did.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 1:35 am
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Cats can stop roaming the day peoples dogs stop ruining my peace and quiet with there barking.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 1:37 am
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^ So your peace and quiet is worth more than billions of native fauna being killed, with species going extinct?

People actually can and do complain about barking, though I personally think this is only remotely reasonable if it's in the middle of the night.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:14 am
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Yeah nah, I’ve tried everything except debarking to stop my poodle Molly barking, she just likes barking. She is like a little machine gun. Thankfully she has improved with age. But if I had to listen to it all day I’d go nuts. My own beloved dog!

Years ago I approached the bitch across the street and said can you please keep your cat in at night because it’s sits on my bedroom window sill at night. And she says well your dog wakes me up, me ITS Barking at your CAT! I stuck a council cage on the front lawn, she got the message! No more cat at night.

I guess with everything, people come first. They stopped dogs roaming to protect people from dog bites and dog poo! Not a bad thing. Now the laws for cats need enforcing.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:48 am
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stui magpie wrote:
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You can, and 1 shire in Qld, is.

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A Queensland local council will not back down on a controversial bounty that offers $10 for the scalps of feral cats, despite animal rights activists calling it cruel and unnecessary.

Banana shire introduced the bounty last month, which offers $10 for the scalp of an adult feral cat, and $5 for a kitten. Feral cats are estimated to kill 750,000 birds a day in Australia, and council staff said the bounty came in response to “an exploding population” of feral cats hunting native wildlife.


https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/nov/13/queensland-council-stands-by-10-bounty-for-adult-feral-cat-scalps

And the feds are in on the act too.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/war-on-feral-cats-australia-aims-to-cull-2-million-20170214-gucp4o.html

Might have to buy a rifle and spotlight. If the bounty goes up, you could make a nice little sideline a few nights a week.


When you see those posters about missing cats, it’s kind of heartbreaking to think that people would be out deliberately trying to kill them. I understand the ecological argument for culling, but how we treat animals will say a lot about our society.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:24 am
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swoop42 wrote:
Cats can stop roaming the day peoples dogs stop ruining my peace and quiet with there barking.


This.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:28 am
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Agreed. That's why you kill them humanely.

It also says something about how peoples reaction depends on cuteness and the perceived notion of pets.

I wouldn't see anyone up in arms about trying to eradicate cane toads, which are just another introduced species causing environmental damage, but not as much as cats.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:53 am
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Toads are also vastly less complex and intelligent animals. One reason we feel worse about killing or hurting cats is that we feel closer to them (same with dogs) and can communicate with them, etc. So to slaughter them feels much crueller and more transgressive – it feels closer to killing a person.

The real hypocrisy, of course, is in how we treat stock animals.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:27 pm
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^ With intelligence comes responsibility. Cats are relatively intelligent, so should they not also be held relatively responsible for the carnage?

But then this starts to get back to questions of evil...
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